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php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:41 am
by lauthiamkok
Hi,
Which is the best php framework out there which I can get enough documentations (such as books, online forums, etc) to start from?
Zend framewkes?
PHP cake?
Symfony?
Thanks,
Lau
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:06 am
by AbraCadaver
It depends upon what you need aside from docs. Everyone will have their own "best" or favorite. Zend seems to be very feature rich but in my opinion is just a very good class library. Cake does a good job of tying all of the pieces together and automating a lot of things and I prefer Cake.
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:38 am
by phu
Django! Oh, wait.
Personally, I find Zend a bit dogmatic and obtuse.
CodeIgniter seems pretty solid to me; Symfony is also well-written.
Of course, you could also try
this.

Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:27 am
by lauthiamkok
some of the text on
http://cakephp.org/, cannot be displayed properly on firefox, do u guys have this problem?
(see the image attachment)
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:48 am
by AbraCadaver
lauthiamkok wrote:some of the text on
http://cakephp.org/, cannot be displayed properly on firefox, do u guys have this problem?
(see the image attachment)
Nope. I've been using firefox forever and visiting the cake site frequently and have had no issues. I'm using firefox 3.6 now and all looks fine for me.
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:36 pm
by greyhoundcode
Looks fine to me too.
For what it's worth, I'd like to throw
Kohana into the pot of suggestions.
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:01 pm
by lauthiamkok
thanks guys but I still cannot get my head around with all these frameworks!
I don't understand why you need install these frameworks like a programme, some of them even need you to set up a database or connecting to the database (cakephp).
I have scanned them through, and all of them require you to install them through prompt command/ terminal and configure urls and make directories are writeable??
How can I install these frameworks on a live server then!???
Why are these frameworks cannot be like jquery which I just need to put it in a particular folder in my website root, and link it in my html document?
When I code my php classes, I just need to include the classes with a link as well like jquery! just cant understand why these frameworks are so complicated? How can them speed up my web production then!??

Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:19 pm
by AbraCadaver
lauthiamkok wrote:thanks guys but I still cannot get my head around with all these frameworks!
I don't understand why you need install these frameworks like a programme, some of them even need you to set up a database or connecting to the database (cakephp).
I have scanned them through, and all of them require you to install them through prompt command/ terminal and configure urls and make directories are writeable??
How can I install these frameworks on a live server then!???
Why are these frameworks cannot be like jquery which I just need to put it in a particular folder in my website root, and link it in my html document?
When I code my php classes, I just need to include the classes with a link as well like jquery! just cant understand why these frameworks are so complicated? How can them speed up my web production then!??

You don't install them like a program, you install it in a location that is accessible by the application that you will write. If you will have a database in your app then you will need to setup the database details. If the framework provides caching etc., then you'll probably need writable directories.
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:33 pm
by lauthiamkok
AbraCadaver wrote:
You don't install them like a program, you install it in a location that is accessible by the application that you will write. If you will have a database in your app then you will need to setup the database details. If the framework provides caching etc., then you'll probably need writable directories.
okay... can I ask another question...? how about when come to the live server - how do I 'install' a framework...?
sorry for being stupid!

Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by AbraCadaver
lauthiamkok wrote:AbraCadaver wrote:
You don't install them like a program, you install it in a location that is accessible by the application that you will write. If you will have a database in your app then you will need to setup the database details. If the framework provides caching etc., then you'll probably need writable directories.
okay... can I ask another question...? how about when come to the live server - how do I 'install' a framework...?
sorry for being stupid!

Just read the docs. As for Cake and Zend you would just upload the framework to your web directory or an include directory and make any permissions changes that are needed. All of the command line stuff is to create and configure your app, which you would normally do on your dev server or workstation.
Re: php frameworks: which is the best?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:58 pm
by lauthiamkok
will do that! thank you.
