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Zend Studio vs Dreamweaver MX

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:22 am
by voodoo9055
I can't seem to find a good debate on this subject so I'll ask it here. Currently, I am using Dreamweaver MX. I am trying to make the decision whether or not to move to Zend Studio. I like the fact that Zend Studio is very PHP oriented and it has great intellisense/self documention, but I also want to know how easy it is to work with FTP and to do chmod commands in Zend Studio. I went to there website and they forums and couldn't find anything on the subject. Would I need to get a seperate FTP client just to upload and chmod files?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:08 am
by macewan
I've tested zend on linux. Have you downloaded a copy of the latest beta?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:44 pm
by voodoo9055
Yes, I have which is why I am asking the question. I like how it looks. I am seriously thinking about purchasing it for my business.

Re: Zend Studio vs Dreamweaver MX

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:03 pm
by jason
voodoo9055 wrote:I can't seem to find a good debate on this subject so I'll ask it here. Currently, I am using Dreamweaver MX. I am trying to make the decision whether or not to move to Zend Studio. I like the fact that Zend Studio is very PHP oriented and it has great intellisense/self documention, but I also want to know how easy it is to work with FTP and to do chmod commands in Zend Studio. I went to there website and they forums and couldn't find anything on the subject. Would I need to get a seperate FTP client just to upload and chmod files?
FTP: Yes, just right click in the file browser, and select the Add FTP Server option.

As far as doing chmod commands, no, you can't. The really nice thing is the Remote Debugger, which is just too cool.

And I have tried out Zend 3.0 beta, and it's much better.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:40 pm
by voodoo9055
Thank you so much jason. But it sucks that you can't do chmod commands. I guess I will have to make the decision if I want to plop $200 on Zend later.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:33 pm
by jason
I don't find the lack of chmod'ing a big deal. I rarely need it to work with PHP, and I would rather my PHP Editor be good at assisting me in editing PHP, not working on the server.

If I want to do some server work, it's much easier for me to log into the server via ssh and type 'chmod 644 *' or 'chown user:group file'. Rather than do many things poorly, I would rather it do a few things exteremly well.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:33 pm
by jason
Just to note, that is my opinion, and should not be read as me saying you are wrong in your opinion.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 4:29 pm
by voodoo9055
Ok, stupid question. What is ssh? I heard of ssl, but not ssh.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:08 pm
by Stoker
just a comment regarding the initial question; Zend Studio and Dreamweaver has very different purposes, DW is for design with some support for coding, ZS is more like an IDE/Debugger and contains very little design functionality... I havent really compared Zend Studio to any other PHP-IDE, but I'd say its worth the money, especially if you qualify for the small business deal..

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:12 pm
by Stoker
SSH is Secure SHell - basically telnet (shell) access over an encryptet connection. SSH also support remote commands, X-sessions, port-fw and file transfers and such.. If you dont know UNIX-like command line you are better off just using an FTP client for file manipulations.

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:57 am
by voodoo9055
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah, I more of a Windows person.

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:52 pm
by m3rajk
auch! how can one program a program that doesn't have massive memory leaks on an operating system with inherint memory leaks????

do you use dos at all? i grew up in a world of dos... i grew up in a pre win 3.1 world!
(and i was born in 1979!)

if you use dos, learning the posix commands should NOT be hard. and you'll learn to hate the borg with a passion...because let's face it, windoze is so unstable it blows!

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:24 am
by macewan
(redhat, mandrake, suse recommended for that just starting - linuxiso.org)

after getting used using linux you quickly realize how limited/expensive the windows world really is.

on a side note. if you need to ssh under windows you can use the putty.exe client. just google putty.exe ssh windows.