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Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help please?
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:06 pm
by simonmlewis
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Notice: Undefined index: itemtype in C:\xampp\phpMyAdmin\justbbguns\index.php on line 6
Notice: Undefined index: sort in C:\xampp\phpMyAdmin\justbbguns\index.php on line 13
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Hello
I am one of many people who now use Windows 7, and XAMP.
I now have this problem when running a web site locally. All databases are installed, and even some results are showing, but i get many of these errors. One was about acookie, and line 6 is to do with a session.
Hope someone can shed a bit of light on it.
Simon
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:20 pm
by AbraCadaver
Previously in php.ini, error_reporting or display_errors was set differently. It is now set to display all errors (even notices). The problem is that the code is attempting to use an array element but it doesn't exist (bad code). The problem was always there you just didn't see it.
You get this error if you do this:
But not if you do this:
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$somearray['itemtype'] = 'something';
echo $somearray['itemtype'];
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:21 pm
by John Cartwright
It means you are trying to access a key that doesn't exist in the array.
I.e.,
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$myArray = array(
'foo' => 'bar',
'blah' => 'bleh'
);
//generate undefined key notice
echo $myArray['someRandomKeyThatDoesntExist'];
EDIT | Beaten.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:36 pm
by simonmlewis
Hi.
The thing you pointed out - the $something - my code isn't doing that.
What is the previous version of XAMP then? I'll just uninstall and install that version instead as I cannot be doing with those errors, when the previous one was fine.
That code on all our web sites run without error.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:04 pm
by John Cartwright
simonmlewis wrote:Hi.
The thing you pointed out - the $something - my code isn't doing that.
It's not? I thought that was the whole reason you made this thread!

Seriously, your code IS doing that if those errors have appeared. I have a feeling you took the examples too literally.. they are only examples. Variables and such are subject to be anything. Perhaps if you posted the code we can show you exactly whats going on.
That code on all our web sites run without error.
Wrong. Your code on all your websites are running WITH errors. You are just not displaying them. The best solution would be to fix the culprit, otherwise, simply set
or
or set either of those through your php.ini to disable the notices.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:45 pm
by simonmlewis
It's not a case of me not displaying the errors - perhaps the servers by the professional hosting companies doesn't show them - but whatever - I DON'T AND HAVE NOT SEEN ERRORS IN 5 YEARS.
Where is that php.ini file as i cannot trace it. Sorry.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:52 pm
by John Cartwright
simonmlewis wrote:It's not a case of me not displaying the errors - perhaps the servers by the professional hosting companies doesn't show them - but whatever - I DON'T AND HAVE NOT SEEN ERRORS IN 5 YEARS.
Where is that php.ini file as i cannot trace it. Sorry.
OK we'll you obviously know what your doing if you've never seen an error in 5 years, hmm, or maybe it's because you haven't had error reporting on for 5 years. I just can't figure out which.
So let me be clear -- YOU HAVE ERRORS. Yes, it is a case of you just not displaying them. Just because your server configuration is setup to not display them, doesn't mean they aren't being generated. You want proof? Go check your php error log. It's probably crammed full of notice/error messages.
Anyways, my advise is to enable it during dev and disable it on live servers. So I probably wouldn't enable it now, especially since you know YOU HAVE ERRORS (whether you admit it or not

).
Talk to your host, if you are on shared hosting, you likely do not have access to it. I've already described how to enable it via code. You can also enable these with .htaccess.
I'm out of here now. Good luck.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:10 pm
by simonmlewis
Ok.Well all I know is that I haven't seen any errors ever, and my hosts clearly have it switched off as default.
I cannot find that error reporting in php.ini.
It's all very well pointing out that I have errors, but I have dozens of web sites all coded the same, and no errors have come up, and my hosts have never informed me of any. So I've never been told how to show myself these apparent errors/
But I need to knw how to switch it off. Even tho you have said it's in php.ini, I cannot find that when i search. If you mean to enter it in there...WHERE?
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:29 pm
by internet-solution
John has already showed you how to enable it via code in a post above.
John Cartwright wrote:
The best solution would be to fix the culprit, otherwise, simply set
or
Maybe you should give more attention to what others are saying, especially when they are trying to help you?
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:47 am
by simonmlewis
Why are developers often so prickly?!
As I said, I don't know where that should be placed. I've never had to do that.
He says it should go in php.ini, but not where, and not if that is already there and just needs changing to that.
I cannot find it.
"Here are some brakepads, they need replacing on that wheel.
Where?
On that wheel - he told you.
Where in that wheel?"
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:36 am
by simonmlewis
Another example of an error:
[text]Notice: Undefined index: head in C:\xampp\phpMyAdmin\site\index.php on line 356
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Code:
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$head = $_REQUEST['head'];
if ($head != NULL) { echo "<div class='head'>
$head</div>";}
How is this code incorrect?
It's calling part of the URL, and if it isn't NULL, then it does something.
Also, I have spoken with my hosting company who say the errors I showed here are not the sorts of errors they have seen before, particular not that would appear thru the error_reporting.
Is it purely down the 1.7.4 or XAMPP on Windows 7 64 BIT??
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:55 am
by John Cartwright
simonmlewis wrote:Why are developers often so prickly?!
As I said, I don't know where that should be placed. I've never had to do that.
He says it should go in php.ini, but not where, and not if that is already there and just needs changing to that.
I cannot find it.
"Here are some brakepads, they need replacing on that wheel.
Where?
On that wheel - he told you.
Where in that wheel?"
You have to remember, we volunteer our time to help others. We can't hold your hand through the entire process. People who do that for you earn a paycheck.
Moving on.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:00 am
by John Cartwright
simonmlewis wrote:Another example of an error:
[text]Notice: Undefined index: head in C:\xampp\phpMyAdmin\site\index.php on line 356
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Code:
Code: Select all
$head = $_REQUEST['head'];
if ($head != NULL) { echo "<div class='head'>
$head</div>";}
How is this code incorrect?
It's calling part of the URL, and if it isn't NULL, then it does something.
The code is incorrect because you are attempting to use a variable that does not exist. The proper way to do that would be to check that the variable exists before using it. I.e.,
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$head = isset($_REQUEST['head']) ? $_REQUEST['head'] : null;
//long form
$head = null;
if (isset($_REQUEST['head'])) {
$head = $_REQUEST['head'];
}
Also, I have spoken with my hosting company who say the errors I showed here are not the sorts of errors they have seen before, particular not that would appear thru the error_reporting.
Then they have no idea what they are talking about. These are exactly the errors you'll generally find in error logs (especially poor written applications).
Is it purely down the 1.7.4 or XAMPP on Windows 7 64 BIT??
It is purely down on your code. The Apache configuration just happened to be different on this setup.
Like I mentioned, if your on a shared host you likely do not have access to your php.ini. Therefore, your best option would be to ask your host to disable it, if you're unwilling to fix your code. Otherwise, include that code to disable error reporting at the top of your scripts. Note, fatal errors will still show because the code will not be able to run if it cannot be parsed, thus never disabling error reporting.
I don't know how to explain it any more than that. Just talk to your host, they are there to serve you.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:09 am
by simonmlewis
The problem has now bee resolved using another method - far simpler than changing hundreds of lines of code.
The query I posted about $head = $_REQUEST['head'];, and then asking if it is not NULL.... why is that wrong?
Surely that variable is dead unless it is called, and it is only called in my code when asked if there is anything it in.
Version 1.7.3 from what I understand is a far better version anyway. I've read nothing but bad things about it, from someone saying the developer of that 1.7.4 should be shot, to you name it.
So I think I'll stick with 1.7.3 anyway. Works fine. And I have never turned off any error reporting, so maybe 1.7.4 is a lot stricter, and based on views of many, is rubbish anyway.
I also asked my host about error logs on their server, and they said if there were, and if they were mounting up (we have loads of web sites), then they would soon be telling me. Nothing reported tho.
Interesting reading.
And some of us DO need a little extra help. It's 'data', not 'information', when you tell someone they need something in a file, but don't tell there where, especially when they have no idea.
Re: Windows 7 User - Odd PHP Script error - anyone help plea
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:19 am
by John Cartwright
simonmlewis wrote:The problem has now bee resolved using another method - far simpler than changing hundreds of lines of code.
The query I posted about $head = $_REQUEST['head'];, and then asking if it is not NULL.... why is that wrong?
Surely that variable is dead unless it is called, and it is only called in my code when asked if there is anything it in.
The reason PHP is so popular because it lets you write bad code. When PHP internally generates notices/errors that should be enough for any programmer to realize they are doing something wrong. I'm not going to debate whether this is bad practice.. because it's a horrible practice.
Version 1.7.3 from what I understand is a far better version anyway. I've read nothing but bad things about it, from someone saying the developer of that 1.7.4 should be shot, to you name it.
So I think I'll stick with 1.7.3 anyway. Works fine. And I have never turned off any error reporting, so maybe 1.7.4 is a lot stricter, and based on views of many, is rubbish anyway.
I assume your talking about xampp. I haven't used a pre-packaged server software in a long time, so I'll take your word for it. Server configurations vary from installation to installation, so it was just chance your history of error reporting settings. Like I mentioned earlier, you should always have error reporting disabled in a live environment. Although memory serves that xampp installs came with error reporting enabled by default because it's primarily used in a local environment (not on live servers).
I also asked my host about error logs on their server, and they said if there were, and if they were mounting up (we have loads of web sites), then they would soon be telling me. Nothing reported tho.
If I were you, I would just ask them to give you the error log. Take a look at it and I'm sure you'll be surprised on how often your errors are going unnoticed.
Interesting reading.
And some of us DO need a little extra help. It's 'data', not 'information', when you tell someone they need something in a file, but don't tell there where, especially when they have no idea.
If I knew where your php.ini file was located, I would have told you. It varies from OS, Server, and installer... which was why I told you to speak to your host
Anyhow.. glad you got things resolved.