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horde

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:13 am
by gurjit
does any one know how i implement horde 3.0.4 with imp 4.0.3.

i am having great difficulty in setting this up.

any help will be appreciated.

Re: horde

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:24 am
by Roja
gurjit wrote:does any one know how i implement horde 3.0.4 with imp 4.0.3.

i am having great difficulty in setting this up.

any help will be appreciated.
I first ran into PHP roughly 6 years ago, working at an ISP. I had to setup IMP, the Horde webmail system.

It was so insanely bad that the horde 'faq-o-matic' at the time had *seven* different entries detailing how to work through all the different problems. Once you made it through those, you also had to visit multiple mailing list posts - which were referenced in various areas. Even those didn't fully solve the problem.

It was, to be blunt, the worst software install I had ever gone through in my entire life. It wasn't until I found perl and its evil CPAN/dependency hell on Redhat7 that the title would fall.

Six years later, and I just had a friend relay almost exactly the same sentiments.. hard install procedure, difficult configuration, and fairly unhelpful documentation. I was a little surprised that it was still difficult after all this time, but knew just how he felt. He's a professional PHP programmer, so he has a solid understanding of the "normal" process.

To be fair, I don't know how hard it is anymore. I moved on to Squirrelmail long ago, and I can install it in minutes.

Despite Horde having some of the best programmers in the PHP community, it seems the install process hasn't improved over half a decade later. That is a little disheartening. Hopefully someone else can offer some help. Me, I suggest you try Squirrelmail instead.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:50 am
by gurjit
basically what your saying is that i'm screwed.

see the problem of moving to squirrelmail is that, i run version 2 of horde on another server with over 1000 users. If i use squirrelmail on the new server and migrate the mail accounts over, will i lose all the folders that users have created in horde or are these all kept on the severs IMAP directories?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:27 pm
by Roja
gurjit wrote:basically what your saying is that i'm screwed.
Not at all.. I'm hoping someone else will be able to provide some help. I was simply sharing my experiences and offering an alternative.
gurjit wrote:see the problem of moving to squirrelmail is that, i run version 2 of horde on another server with over 1000 users. If i use squirrelmail on the new server and migrate the mail accounts over, will i lose all the folders that users have created in horde or are these all kept on the severs IMAP directories?
It depends on how you have things setup.

Here's an easy idea. Copy a few of the mailboxes (that you legitimately can access directly) over to the new machine, setup squirrelmail, and verify that the folder layout is the same.

IMAP can, and usually does store the folder layouts, but some systems (ie, frontends like squirrelmail and imp) can also be configured not to do use imap for that function.

Testing is almost always worthwhile.