JAB Creations wrote:Dam it, this is why I do not post here often: people do not effectively what I post!
Do not effectively what? We can effectively understand you, only if you write clearly. (You left out a word between effectively and what).
Further, many times people focus too much on a particular method to solve a problem, without knowing why that method can be a bad thing. We try to help people on these forums, so we explain the situation - again, to ensure everyone effectively understands the situation.
JAB Creations wrote:I basically only want to block useragents (manually)
What does that mean? code = automatic, not manual.
JAB Creations wrote:Manually...and did my original guess of code include the and operator? It did...
Your code isn't manual - its automatic. It runs without manual intervention - without you pressing the button. That makes it automatic.
Further, the "and" operator in your example doesn't change the facts. All browsers (save two) have multiple user agents.
JAB Creations wrote:MSIE 7.0b = spammers already using new useragent spoofs.
Huh? IE7b is out, and is in use. Or do you mean that spammers already spoof as that useragent? (I'm sure they do, but what does that have to do with anything?)
JAB Creations wrote:I know about the Mozilla double useragent issue. Thats why I said manually setting my restrictions. I was not talking about Mozilla.
Our point was the way you stated the problem - "Browsers with multiple useragents" - is *ALL* browsers (save two). You were imprecise in your phrasing, and we were trying to help clarify it, so we could come up with a solution that does what you want, without blocking EVERY browser (save two).
JAB Creations wrote:Now could someone please read my post without having to GUESS what I wrote?
Only if you clearly write what you are trying to say. So far, you haven't, so we've had to ask for clarification - which is not the same as guessing.
JAB Creations wrote:
I think after going through 100mb access logs almost line by line for two years I have some clue as what I'm talking about.

You have a clue about what, you don't seem to have mastered HOW to talk about it.