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Good OOP Framework?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:11 pm
by samtay
Is their any good OOP Framework out their? Should I use a Framework?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:29 pm
by feyd
Yes. Possibly.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:33 pm
by Luke
pretty vague question... I love the Zend Framework... but it's still under heavy development. It's still awesome though.
http://framework.zend.com

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:38 pm
by Ollie Saunders
but it's still under heavy development.
Yeah but all the core stuff is done, its pretty stable these days and is good enough for production with the possible exception of Zend_Db, which seems to still have a lot of bugs logged under it.
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:It's still awesome though.
You read the source in the Zend Framework and you are simply saying "Oh what a good idea!" and "Why didn't I think of that?!" constantly. It's clear the amount of careful planning and consideration has gone into ZF.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:42 pm
by samtay
I just want something easier and light weight! Also with a Theme engine.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:44 pm
by feyd
Theme engine? Do you mean a template engine? Most if not all frameworks support, in some fashion, a template engine. Whether it's an outside developed system versus built-in, that's really up to the framework.

There are a lot of frameworks out there. What languages are you familiar with?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:49 pm
by samtay
PHP, I been looking at Code Igniter but I want to use OOP. Yer, template engine. Sorry brain not working today.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:07 pm
by Luke
Well one thing that really turned me on to the Zend Framework was the fact that it can be as light-weight as you make it. You can use its components independant of eachother. Say you want to use adodb instead of Zend_Db... you can! Say you want to set up your system without MVC (Zend_Controller_*)... you can! It's very cool.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:31 pm
by samtay
Would using a framework be best practise?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:35 pm
by feyd
Break it down.

What does x, y and z framework offer in terms of features, use and your personal taste?
What do you need and want now?
What do you need and want later?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:40 pm
by nickvd
I just started using code igniter and I'm loving it so far... They have an incredible user guide available along with several tutorials and even a few video tutorials.

It's simple, lightweight and best of all, it stays out of your way, you can code however you want to code...

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:59 pm
by samtay
I just want a base to start off my applications on, that simple and light weight. Want it to handle all the common things such as MySQL, Form validation, template engine etc...