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IE, Netscape, Mozilla etc. etc. bundled?
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 6:58 am
by JAM
What do you use to check the results against the different browsers? Is it required to install all browsers or does someone have a set of tools they use to get a realtime view of the work?
I'm trying to use the correct syntax in for example css, but correct in Mozilla is indeed not correct in IE as they go their own way with standards, just to name one problem.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:28 am
by Vincent Puglia
Hi Jam,
correct syntax in...css
afaik, you'll need to download the browser and test against it.
there are sites that check pages for 'standards compliance', but I don't know if they check css (especially external stylesheets).
insofar as javascript, the major problems occur with dHTML -- and 'component-like' code for that isn't too hard to find. But again, testing against the actual browser can't be beat.
Vinny
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:51 am
by Linkjames
In my experience, you can never cater for all browsers, without a huge amount of effort, shaping the site for each type. Granted it can be done, but its not worth the effort imho. Better to design for your favorite browser. Just stick to standard codes and HTML and hope that one day the browsers sort themselves out.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:22 am
by igoy
absolutely....
In my experience, you can never cater for all browsers, without a huge amount of effort, shaping the site for each type. Granted it can be done, but its not worth the effort imho.
i use dreamweaver which have facility to check the pages under different browsers..and different versions.... works pretty good for me.. as major thing goes between IE and NS...
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:55 pm
by JAM
I agree that writing something that would work in all browsers are out of the question. But if you get a job offering, you unfortunately wont be telling them that you are only creating code for IE5.5+ and Netscape 7+ (hence sticking to my favourite browser is out of the question)...
Dreamweaver (tried it abit once) might be worth checking out again. Or else I'm installing other browsers. Thanks tho.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:11 pm
by evilMind
Compliance will never be possible; especially when you have companies like Micro$oft which define thier own rules. Shouldn't a page that is considered Xhtml/Html/whatever compliant be compliant in *all* browsers?
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:03 pm
by Skyzyx
Linkjames wrote:Better to design for your favorite browser.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. Keeping in mind that websites *don't* have to be pixel-perfect in all browsers. If you design according to standards, then they'll be *close*, even sometimes right-on, but generally there will be some differences.
That's just the nature of the web.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:25 am
by twigletmac
Installing a bunch of browsers for testing tends to be the best way to check out how your site looks on them.
Mac
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:22 am
by JAM
twigletmac wrote:Installing a bunch of browsers for testing tends to be the best way to check out how your site looks on them.
Mac
True, and I've allready started.
Reason of asking is that I need to use a crapload of computers at work (some dualbooting), and at home. Installing all various types of browsers everywhere is annoying.
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:33 am
by twigletmac
Although hopefully you only have to do it once (barring the inevitable reformatting thanks to Microsoft).
A bunch of browsers in one place:
http://browsers.evolt.org/
Mac
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:56 pm
by Unipus
I think as long as you have IE5, IE 5.5+, Mozilla, Safari, and possibly NS4.x or Opera, you're pretty much covered. You'd probably want to check both PC and Mac versions (Mac IE 5 is completely different from the PC version, and also the worst browser out there in my opinion).
If you demand the world, there's a website you might find of use:
http://www.browsercam.com
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:03 pm
by Vincent Puglia
Hi twigletmac:
At the risk of raising the ire implied in your sig:
why isn't there a "go to unread post" link at the top of the threads?
Vinny