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m3mn0n
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Post by m3mn0n »

I have a page that grabs user info but in Mozilla the page displays the alt value instead of the src of the <img> tag.

http://www.playelysium.com/?p=top25&sortby=networth

If you have both browsers you can see what I mean, it's not a big deal but I want both browsers to see the offline/online images.

Does anyone know what do adjust to make this work for both IE and Mozilla?

Thanks.
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Post by microthick »

Try changing the backslash to a forward slash in your IMG tag.
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Post by m3mn0n »

Damn dreamweaver, added it instead of a forward slash since it was developed locally. ;)

Didn't notice it. Thanks.
m3rajk
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Post by m3rajk »

i'm not quite sure. kinda wonder if it's not a thing with ie <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> up like normal....

(php tags used below so it's not a bland green color)
oh well... here's what your php genereated for me in ie:

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&lt;HTML&gt;
&lt;HEAD&gt;
&lt;TITLE&gt;Elysium | Online War Strategy Game&lt;/TITLE&gt;
&lt;link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css"&gt;
&lt;script language="javascript"&gt;
&lt;!--
//&lt;!-- 
function AboutWOC()
{ window.open ("p/aboutwoc.php","elysiumwoc","width=500,height=250,location=0,menubar=0,resizable=0,scrollbars=1,status=0,titlebar=0,toolbar=0") }
//--&gt;
&lt;/script&gt;
&lt;script language="javascript"&gt;
&lt;!--
//&lt;!-- 
function AboutBA()
{ window.open ("p/aboutba.php","elysiumba","width=500,height=250,location=0,menubar=0,resizable=0,scrollbars=1,status=0,titlebar=0,toolbar=0") }
//--&gt;
&lt;/script&gt;
&lt;/HEAD&gt;
&lt;BODY text=#ffffcc link=#ffffcc vlink=#ffffcc bgColor=#000000 leftMargin=0 topMargin=0 marginheight="0" 
marginwidth="0"&gt;
&lt;table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
  &lt;tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#333333"&gt; 
    &lt;td width="50%" align="center" bgcolor="#333333"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt; &lt;img src="images/mainlogo-5.gif" width="275" height="77"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td bgcolor="#333333" onmouseover="this.style.background='#444444'" onmouseout="this.style.background='#333333'"&gt;
	&lt;div align="center"&gt; &lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
        &lt;a href="?p=home"&gt;Home&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="?p=about"&gt;About&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="?p=code"&gt;Rules&lt;/a&gt; 
        - &lt;a href="?p=contact"&gt;Contact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
        &lt;a href="/community" target="_new"&gt;Community&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="?p=servicelevels"&gt;Service Levels&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="?p=archive"&gt;Archive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
	&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;table width="100%" border="0" background="images/cellpic1.gif"&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt; 
    &lt;td width="100%" background="images/cellpic1.gif"&gt; 
      &lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                &lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
        29        &lt;/strong&gt; empires, &lt;strong&gt; 
        2        &lt;/strong&gt; online now&amp;nbsp;
		&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;table width="100%" border="0"&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt; 
    &lt;td width="200" valign="top"&gt;
&lt;div align="center"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
      &lt;table width="99%" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic3.gif"&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;font color="#CC9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top 
              3 Clans&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td valign="top" bgcolor="#333333" onmouseover="this.style.background='#444444'" onmouseout="this.style.background='#333333'"&gt; 
                 				 &lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
				&lt;table with="100%"&gt;
				&lt;tr&gt;
				&lt;td&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
				1.&lt;br&gt;              2.&lt;br&gt;              3.&lt;br&gt;				&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td valign="top"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
								&lt;b&gt;TheNM&lt;/b&gt; &#1111;4 Empires]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;b&gt;SaMi&lt;/b&gt; &#1111;2 Empires]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;b&gt;ISW&lt;/b&gt; &#1111;2 Empires]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;
			  &lt;/table&gt;
            &lt;div align="right"&gt; &lt;font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;&lt;a href="?p=top25clans"&gt;Expand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 
            &lt;/div&gt;
            &lt;/font&gt;
			&lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic1.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
      &lt;/table&gt;
      &lt;table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic3.gif"&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;font color="#CC9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt; 
              World of Chaos Top 3&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td valign="top" bgcolor="#333333" onmouseover="this.style.background='#444444'" onmouseout="this.style.background='#333333'"&gt;
		   				 &lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
				&lt;table with="100%"&gt;
				&lt;tr&gt;
				&lt;td valign="top"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
				1.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;              2.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;              3.&lt;br&gt;				&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td valign="top"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
								&lt;b&gt;Canis Lupus&lt;/b&gt; (#20)&lt;br&gt;
				&#1111;Dwarf] &#1111;&lt;font color="red"&gt;Offline&lt;/font&gt;]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;b&gt;Nowhere to run&lt;/b&gt; (#6)&lt;br&gt;
				&#1111;Gremlin] &#1111;&lt;font color="red"&gt;Offline&lt;/font&gt;]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;b&gt;Jail&lt;/b&gt; (#12)&lt;br&gt;
				&#1111;Halfling] &#1111;&lt;font color="red"&gt;Offline&lt;/font&gt;]&lt;br&gt;
								&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;
			  &lt;/table&gt;
            &lt;div align="right"&gt; &lt;font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;&lt;a href="?p=top25&amp;sortby=networth"&gt;Expand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 
            &lt;/div&gt;
            &lt;/font&gt;
			&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic1.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
      &lt;/table&gt;
      &lt;table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic3.gif"&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;font color="#CC9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Battle 
              Arena Top 3&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
				  &lt;td valign="top" bgcolor="#333333" onmouseover="this.style.background='#444444'" onmouseout="this.style.background='#333333'"&gt;
		   &lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="red"&gt; &lt;center&gt;
           &lt;br&gt;Server Offline&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
            &lt;/div&gt;
            &lt;/font&gt;
		  &lt;/td&gt;
		          &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic1.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
      &lt;/table&gt;
      
      &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font color="#333333" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;copy; 
        2003 PlayElysium.com, Inc.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td valign="top"&gt; &lt;table width="100%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td&gt; 
            &lt;table width="100%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt; 
          &lt;td background="images/cellpic3.gif"&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;font color="#CC9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top 
        25 World of Chaos Players&lt;br&gt;
        &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt; 
          
    &lt;td bgcolor="#333333"&gt; 
	        &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
        Order By: &lt;a href="./?p=top25&amp;sortby=networth"&gt;Networth&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="./?p=top25&amp;sortby=land"&gt;Land&lt;/a&gt; 
        - &lt;a href="./?p=top25&amp;sortby=kills"&gt;Kills&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
      &lt;table width="85%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt;
           &lt;td valign="top"&gt;
			&lt;table width="100%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" bordercolor="#333333"&gt;
              &lt;tr&gt; 
                &lt;td bgcolor="#000000"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#FF9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;Emipre&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td width="20%" bgcolor="#000000"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#FF9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;Networth&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td width="15%" bgcolor="#000000"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#FF9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                &lt;td width="10%" bgcolor="#000000"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#FF9900" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;Race&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;/tr&gt;
                            &lt;tr bgcolor="#222222"&gt; 
                &lt;td&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;b&gt; 
                    Canis Lupus                    &lt;/b&gt; (#20) 
					&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    $611,119                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                   10,383                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                                        &#1111;&lt;b&gt;TheNM&lt;/b&gt;]
                                        &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    0                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    Dwarf                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;img src="images\offlineface.gif" alt="User Offline"&gt;                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
              &lt;/tr&gt;
                            &lt;tr bgcolor="#222222"&gt; 
                &lt;td&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;b&gt; 
                    Nowhere to run                    &lt;/b&gt; (#6) 
					&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    $469,372                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                   22,389                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                                        &#1111;&lt;b&gt;ISW&lt;/b&gt;]
                                        &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    0                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
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                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;img src="images\offlineface.gif" alt="User Offline"&gt;                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
              &lt;/tr&gt;
                            &lt;tr bgcolor="#222222"&gt; 
                &lt;td&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;b&gt; 
                    Jail                    &lt;/b&gt; (#12) 
					&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
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                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                                        &#1111;&lt;b&gt;TheNM&lt;/b&gt;]
                                        &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
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                            &lt;tr bgcolor="#222222"&gt; 
                &lt;td&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;b&gt; 
                    Kiiroths World                    &lt;/b&gt; (#17) 
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                    Ouchies Domain                    &lt;/b&gt; (#14) 
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                                        &#1111;&lt;b&gt;DP&lt;/b&gt;]
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                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
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                &lt;td bordercolor="#000000"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"&gt; 
                    &lt;img src="images\offlineface.gif" alt="User Offline"&gt;                    &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;tr bgcolor="#222222"&gt; 
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                    &lt;b&gt; 
                    Andor                    &lt;/b&gt; (#24) 
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Sami wrote:Damn dreamweaver, added it instead of a forward slash since it was developed locally. ;)

Didn't notice it. Thanks.
ha! i was right. it IS M$IE <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> up that's why it's working in ie.


always remember, with issues like that, 99 out of 100 time, if not 999 out of 1000 or something even less common, the issue isn't that the non-M$IE browser has an issue, but that M$IE is poorly written and allows a lot of <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span> it that is non-standard or works via a bad implementation that is wrong and not how it should via standards (ie: css and text aligning)
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Yeah, this non-standard parsing has been a constant headache ever since I started html, heh. :?
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IE, NS, Mozilla, whatever......... if you coded to standards in the first place you wouldn't have had the problem.
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table-less designs is a nice read. Helps you get rid of those, imho, ugly <table><tr><td> tags ;)
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Gen-ik, even if you code to the standards that doesn't guarantee that it'll work (or look the same). Also, alot of css sites recommend that you make the browser enter quirks mode (no doctype) so that it'll work the page out on it's own.
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evilMind wrote:Gen-ik, even if you code to the standards that doesn't guarantee that it'll work (or look the same). Also, alot of css sites recommend that you make the browser enter quirks mode (no doctype) so that it'll work the page out on it's own.
Amen to that.

Define standards...

px is a standard (measuring). Yet 11px is different in 20% of the browsers. Even funnier, 12px is different in 20% of the other ones... This goes for em, pt, cm etc. etc. also...

How do I write standard code that works, and does not require the box model hack ( voice-family: ""}""; )? I havn't found a way yet...

There is no such thing today afaik.
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JAM wrote:px is a standard (measuring). Yet 11px is different in 20% of the browsers. Even funnier, 12px is different in 20% of the other ones...
PX is pixels as you probably know... and all browsers do use it in exacatly the same way. The difference is how browsers handle borders and margins around objects which effects their size.

If you create a <div> for example and make it 100px wide it will appear the same in all browsers. However, if you then give it a 25px border IE will include the size of the border with the <div> so that it remains 100px wide, the space in the object is reduced as a result to 50px.

NS however will add the size of the border to the <div> which will make it appear wider and higher...... it puts the border on the 'outside' of the object keeping the space in the middle at 100px.

There are tricks to keeping everything looking the same in IE, NS and other browsers but you will only learn them through website design experience.
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gen-ik wrote:There are tricks to keeping everything looking the same in IE, NS and other browsers but you will only learn them through website design experience.
Ouch. I don't know anything about JAM but judging by JAM's previous post(s) I would say that JAM has enough experience. You might be able to catch me on that one, but let's give it a try....

Every computer display is composed of pixels, which are the small dots that make up the entire image(what ever that may be: font, image, whatever). In CSS terms, a pixel is defined to be about the size required to yield 90 pixels per inch. Most user agents ignore this in favor of simply addressing the pixels on the monitor (dpi). Scaling factors are needed to adjust this.
So, even though it seems that 18px = 18px on Mozilla on your computer and on mine, it's not. They are ALL different unless you have the exact same dpi as me (or I as you), the same monitor, the same graphics card.

Now back to standards.
Why is it that M$ will accept one style while Mozilla/Netscape/whatever-other-browser will not? Because standards are NOTHING more than guidelines. That's right: Guidelines. I would LOVE it if all browsers followed the standards, but they don't. It's a race situation which started along time ago when NS and M$ decided that they wanted to have features that the other didn't (a bad example but one that's true none-the-less: the blink tag... Need I say more?). So while coding to the standards is the best thing to do, it doesn't by any means guarantee that the page will look the same across all platforms. Take a look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/intro.html and see just *some* of the differences in the compatibility of the CSS2 Standard. I won't even talk about the XHTML (which, as far as I know, M$ can't understand all too well). And saying: "Well, if you do this and add that and hack this it'll work". Isn't coding to the standards, it's making dumb browsers understand the standards by tricking them into it. Thus, bye-bye standards ( If the browser understood the standards that we should all code by, you wouldn't need to "do this and do that").


btw, I agree that we should all follow the standards.

Is that a good enough grasp to say I have a little bit of experience? :)
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Hehehe... and this all start with someone asking about an image tag :)

No, standards aren't as 'standard' as everyone would like them to be, and no, making your website(s) look e-x-a-c-t-l-y the same on every browser out there is a job even God would find a tad of the difficult side.

Like I said though there are simple ways around problems like the PX one I mentioned above and coding to standards is always a good discipline to follow.

Personally I create sites that work and look the same in and for IE and NS browsers.... nothing else. Considering that 99% of internet users use either IE or NS though this isn't a problem.


By the way...... there's a difference between someone who has a license to drive and someone who's skilled at driving :wink:
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Gen-ik wrote:IE, NS, Mozilla, whatever......... if you coded to standards in the first place you wouldn't have had the problem.
I still cant understand what you mean with this post. I'd like to know what standard you are using to create a page that don't produce problems.

Don't get me wrong, I'd really like to know as it means a great deal to me and my work.

By the way...... there's a difference between someone who has a license to drive and someone who's skilled at driving, but also people that just think they are skilled drivers... ;)
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I know PM's are supposed to be a one-on-one thing but I thought I would post this here just to clear a few things up.
No offense was ment to be taken from my previous posts and I'm sorry if they did offend.

From evilMind to me...
touché...

How can a standard be a standard if none of the browsers comply with the standard? It's not a standard then is it? Anyhow, I think we agree on one thing: It's good to code by standard even if the browser you use (or are writing for) doesn't support some (or most) of the standard(s).

It's not a difficult task to make your/a/whatever site look exactly the same, it's impossible; (screen size, font support, browser, etc. You can *never* do it.... You can get it ohhh so close but it'll never look *exactly* the same).

Now about the driver's license comment: I'm not sure how you meant that to come across, but I did take offense to that. However, I'll shrug my shoulders to that. If you meant it in a derogatory way, ok If that's not what you intended by that comment then we had an intelligent discussion on this wonderful forum

By-the-way, In my previous posts I was not trying to insuniate that you were wrong. I was simply trying to clarify a few points.
... and my reply ...
Thanks for the message mate..... yeah you should always take my little comments with a pinch of salt 'cause I'm only playing :). I don't see the point of getting bitchy on forums, especially forums as good as this one, because the only person who loses out it the person being bitchy...... if you catch my drift.

Anyway a good website is a good website if it's coded by standards or not but as we both agree it is always good practice to code by standards.... although like you said calling them 'standards' is like calling the Queen mother attractive ;)

We all have our own opinions on things (some strong opions now and again) but at the end of the day those who share their thoughts and knowledge with others gain more than not sharing at all.
... Like I said in my reply to evilMind at the end of the day just do what you do to make your website(s). It doesn't matter which road you take to get to where you're going (and with HTML/CSS/PHP there are many roads to choose from) as long as you (and your clients?) are happy with your results.

Yes it would be fantastic if all browsers worked in the same way but the only way that will happen is if one company created it, and with the current laws in place that will never happen. Another option would be for someone to create a group of people to come up with proper standards that ALL browsers had to stick with in order to be released to the public... but that won't happen either.

Take cars for example, they all need to be built to minimum standards but they all look different and handle different.
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