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How did I do this?
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:40 pm
by Luke
Check this out... if you minimize your browser window to 800px wide, the decorative flames on the outside go away, leaving just the content on the screen... this is a VERY cool effect that I have no idea how I did. (in case the user has a 800x600 res)
Anybody know I did it?
http://sierratech.us/images/michaelcharvel
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:48 pm
by nickman013
I think that is because it is your background? (That is if you are talking about the flames.)
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:49 pm
by matthijs

could you explain what you mean? How is it strange that you dont see the background image when resizing to the main content area?
Maybe you mean div id="container" and #container{ width: 775px; } ?
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:53 pm
by neophyte
Whoa dude! Cool Flames!
Seriously I think the flames add a nice touch to the design.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:54 pm
by nickman013
yes, I like the flames also. You have a pretty nice site.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:16 pm
by Luke
Well thank ya...
The guy I'm doing the site for is a pretty impressive guy. him and his dad build guitars for all kinds of famous people and there are all kinds of pictures of these rock stars in my little town... it's pretty cool!
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:38 am
by Luke
The customer hated the flames, the text, and the outlines around the text... weird.
He said the lines around the text look too busy (even though I think they break that text up from the business of all the images he insists be on the front page) and the flames distract from the content (although to me the subtlety of them bring out the content even more) but what do I know... I'm just a web designer.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:13 pm
by Chris Corbyn
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:The customer hated the flames, the text, and the outlines around the text... weird.
He said the lines around the text look too busy (even though I think they break that text up from the business of all the images he insists be on the front page) and the flames distract from the content (although to me the subtlety of them bring out the content even more) but what do I know... I'm just a web designer.
I do think it's nice... you often produce great designs as I've seen from other posts

I would agree with the customer's comment here however the site looks a little busy

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:43 pm
by neophyte
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:The customer hated the flames, the text, and the outlines around the text... weird.
He said the lines around the text look too busy (even though I think they break that text up from the business of all the images he insists be on the front page) and the flames distract from the content (although to me the subtlety of them bring out the content even more) but what do I know... I'm just a web designer.
Design can be like that: one man's jewel is another's turd.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:05 pm
by Luke
Yea... this is the first time a customer didn't like the design I came up with... oh well... I made the changes and now it looks boring... I'll post it in a few minutes.
And thanks D11!
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:26 pm
by matthijs
Ninja, what I've seen so far from you is indeed good. In this case I do think the flames are not making the design more busy then it is.
What I do when clients don't like (certain aspects of) a design, I thank them for their valuable input. Then I'll explain my design decisions. And why the things are the way they are, etc etc. Often that is enough to convince them the design is ok, and I don't have to change it again. I am no real designer myself, so I know that my designs are not perfect. But I do know I have a bit more experience then most of my clients. Often clients look at certain details and don't like it for the wrong reason. For example a client would say: "Maybe we could fill up those empty spaces left and right of the main content". Not knowing that filling up that space would compromise the readability and focus on the main content.
O well, you probably know all these things, so I'd better stop rambling.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:35 pm
by Luke
matthijs wrote:Ninja, what I've seen so far from you is indeed good. In this case I do think the flames are not making the design more busy then it is.
What I do when clients don't like (certain aspects of) a design, I thank them for their valuable input. Then I'll explain my design decisions. And why the things are the way they are, etc etc. Often that is enough to convince them the design is ok, and I don't have to change it again. I am no real designer myself, so I know that my designs are not perfect. But I do know I have a bit more experience then most of my clients. Often clients look at certain details and don't like it for the wrong reason. For example a client would say: "Maybe we could fill up those empty spaces left and right of the main content". Not knowing that filling up that space would compromise the readability and focus on the main content.
O well, you probably know all these things, so I'd better stop rambling.
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Yea, I could use some improvement on my people skills and ability to explain my choices to customers. Oh well... here's the new design...
http://www.sierratech.us/michaelcharvel/