So what do I use, just rely on <object> this is what appears to be a truism according to w3cschools
Anyone care to shed some light?
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<object class="example" data="example.swf" id="mplayer" tabindex="7" type="application/x-shockwave-flash">
<span>It appears you do not have the <a accesskey="8" class="icon external" href="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" rel="external" tabindex="9" title="Flash Plugin">Flash</a> plugin installed is required for this presentation.</span>
<param name="loop" value="false" />
<param name="movie" value="example.swf" />
</object>