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700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:56 pm
by JAB Creations
I had almost 700MB of space being used up on new mail (that I was not aware of) on my 2GB account! I've been deleting 1,998 messages at a time over the past several days dating back to the middle of last year.

So I have a few questions in regards to how email works server to server.

1.) If I get the IP addresses from where these emails originate can I block those IP's in Apache's .htaccess file or will that merely prevent those IP's from viewing my website (which wouldn't block the incoming spam?)

2.) Is there a reasonably quick way to suck out all of the IP addresses of origin if I mass download say a few days of this stuff to help reduce incoming spam?

3.) Can I turn off the hose of incoming email with some switch in Apache or cPanel if I wanted to?

I stopped using HiveMail because it was no longer being supported and it required an excessive amount of time to maintain. I really don't have a reason to have the mail menu on my website right now. Any suggestions for free/decent PHP/MySQL mail script with good template support?

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:35 pm
by Kieran Huggins
I'm pretty happy with Google Apps, just make sure you have a local POP backup. I've had mail vanish from Gmail before... not fun.

Then you'll have almost 7 GB of storage per account, plus Gmail's awesome spam filter.

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:08 pm
by JAB Creations
A new mail account isn't what interests me, dealing with the issue of mass amounts of email that will only continue filling my web space is.

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:18 pm
by Kieran Huggins
one of us is definitely misunderstanding the other.. it might well be me.

I was suggesting using a different mail server for your existing e-mail account; one with better spam control. Google Apps uses Gmail's servers for your domain.

Managing mail servers is almost a black art these days. Google does it well.

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:58 pm
by JAB Creations
Spammers --> Internet --> |Giant Plug goes here| -- My Server -- cPanel

I want to plug or stop email from being accepted by the server completely. I checked Google apps but they want money and I don't bother with email on my server at all any more any way.

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:21 pm
by Kieran Huggins
I use the free version of Google Apps - works just fine.

in cPanel, you can add mail filter rules. Maybe one of those would work for you?

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:33 pm
by JAB Creations
I'm looking but not seeing. Could you kindly point me to the right page please?

By the way what shall I do with your Jergins sir?

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:37 pm
by Kieran Huggins
http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/ad ... s_spe.html

"Standard Edition" is free, and more than enough in most cases.

Spread it on some homeless people with dry elbows ;-)

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:45 am
by JAB Creations
Well I've set it up...but I'm not sure what exactly it's doing. I setup a single account...so when I log in *if* I wanted to access the email previously being sent to my domain name which Google is now receiving what would I do?

Re: 700MB of unread email

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:21 am
by Kieran Huggins
Your previous server will have a FQDN, or at least an IP. You can change the name of your POP server to that IP to check your old mail.

There's also a Google Mail Uploader if you want to push your existing mail into the Google mailbox:
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/email_uploader.html

Just be aware that it doesn't deal with directories that well, since Google uses "labels" instead.

When I transferred, I just enabled IMAP on the Google side and copied my mail to it in Thunderbird.