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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 7:33 pm
by phice
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 11:48 am
by JPlush76
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 2:00 pm
by jason
phice:
Although I'm still in High School, all of my skills are equivalent, if not higher, then many college graduates.
As a college graduate I find that offensive. I understand the point your are trying to make, but understand that the person reading this will look at this and disregard you as a potential employee. I know if I got that on my desk here, that one line would stick with me.
Salary Requirements: Take that out. Are you looking for real work? By putting in a salary requirement, you are shooting yourself in the foot before you even get an interview. The Resume is used for that, to get an interview. It's not a contract.
Your objective is wrong. It should be some career goal, like "To obtain a leadership position in developing web based applications and software." Your objective sounds more like a promotion of PHP, XML and HTML (The power of?).
My basic suggestion on any resume, remove all the negative stuff. Rather than say you won't travel, don't say anything about travel. If someone wants you to take a job, and you go see them, you can make your decision then.
Don't set limits, show off your skills, don't lie, and don't be negative. Those are the tips I was given when working my resume.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 2:06 pm
by JPlush76
I'd have to agree with Jason on that one, take the salary out.
Two things would stick out with me...
High School and wanting 60-70K without years of experience full time in the field.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 5:01 pm
by phice
jason wrote:phice:
Although I'm still in High School, all of my skills are equivalent, if not higher, then many college graduates.
As a college graduate I find that offensive. I understand the point your are trying to make, but understand that the person reading this will look at this and disregard you as a potential employee. I know if I got that on my desk here, that one line would stick with me.
Salary Requirements: Take that out. Are you looking for real work? By putting in a salary requirement, you are shooting yourself in the foot before you even get an interview. The Resume is used for that, to get an interview. It's not a contract.
Your objective is wrong. It should be some career goal, like "To obtain a leadership position in developing web based applications and software." Your objective sounds more like a promotion of PHP, XML and HTML (The power of?).
My basic suggestion on any resume, remove all the negative stuff. Rather than say you won't travel, don't say anything about travel. If someone wants you to take a job, and you go see them, you can make your decision then.
Don't set limits, show off your skills, don't lie, and don't be negative. Those are the tips I was given when working my resume.
I've been editing alot of it in the past few days, and I happened to not see that. I made this like a year ago.. I meant no harm.

I'll edit it soon.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 5:15 pm
by JPlush76
you have offended Jason and his ways
I suggest a duel
swords at sunset?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 6:12 pm
by jason
Haha, no, really, I didn't take offense. I would have been offended if it had come across my desk.
phice: Just want you to get a good resume out there. That is one thing I don't think is taught enough in school, either high school, or better yet, in college. Having a college class on resume writing and interviewing is a good thing, and something a lot of people should have. Yeah, it seems common sense, but they do go through and give you real world experience.
The instructor I had went over a lot of stuff, and some of it was boring, but after it was all done, I had a better grasp of what to look for in my resume, as well as other resumes.
Essentially, he went over the do's and don'ts of resume writing and interviewing. Some immediate tips that come to mind:
- Always bring 3 extra copies of your resume at least. The interviewer may not have it handy.
Your resume should be as short as possible. Keep it simple, and plain. Black on white is prefered. Graphic artist types can get away with fancy stuff, but even then, simple is better.
The resume should have the same header on all the pages
ff you mail it in as a hardcopy (which is still quite popular, and useful), do NOT fold it.
Spell check it, and then let other good friends go over it (like us =)) to critique it.
Leave out the negative. Your resume should never set limits. Your resume's job is to get you the interview. Your Job is to get the job. If your resume sets a limit, you won't get an interview.
At the interview is when you can discuss your limits, and probably not until your second interview (sometimes your first, really depends). By this point, you have so bargaining chips.
Well, that is all for now.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 8:08 am
by enygma
*cough* *sputter* $60-70k?
all I have to say is good freakin luck getting that as a "internet developer" (exactly what I do) that's not a "management job" instead of a coding job - especially in Dallas.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:21 am
by phice
when I'm 18, I'll be moving to Cali with a CCNA and A+ certi's. So we'll see.
(CCNAs start out on average about $70k)
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:35 am
by enygma
yeah, but the cost of living is higher out there too, which is why salaries are higher as well.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:45 am
by JPlush76
I'm in Los Angeles now and even when I was making $70,000 at a now folded dot com company I couldn't even afford a house here in los angeles.
House start at around $300,000. Thats about a $2400 a month morg.
ouchies
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:36 pm
by Johnm
when I'm 18, I'll be moving to Cali with a CCNA and A+ certi's. So we'll see.
No offense intended but anyone can study the material long enough to get those certifications. They do not mean as much as they once did. Experience and a degree will get you the higher paying jobs (60 - 70G... well with around 5 years experience and A DEGREE from a four year university maybe...).
The biggest issue is you age. You will mature a lot in the next five to seven years whether you like/believe it or not and that makes a huge difference in getting hired. I recommend hanging on to being a kid as long a possible, you don't get it back again and there is more than enough of being an adult in your future.
I suggest going to college. That will provide you with many of the things you will need to get a good job (not to mention college girls... ya gotta love 'em).
Direwolf
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:37 pm
by JPlush76
I'm 26 and I still love college girls, lol
I don't think that ever goes away, hehe
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 2:02 pm
by shareme
phice wrote:when I'm 18, I'll be moving to Cali with a CCNA and A+ certi's. So we'll see.
(CCNAs start out on average about $70k)
Sorry to disappoint you but the average rate for CCNAs in US is about $40,000...remember you get what you pay for..
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 4:02 pm
by kcomer
I think you are also over looking expirience. That ways more heavily than certs or schooling. That is what I have seen in the 5 years I've been rolling through the IT world.
Keith