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MVC 3

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hi,

Is there any thing called "MVC 3" in php. I searched for MVC 3 but not able to find it, although i know what is MVC in php. my client gave me php application to convert it in "MVC 3" architecture. please give some links so that i can understand it better.

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AFIK, there's no such thing as MVC 3 (or MVC 2 or MVC 1 for that matter). It's not a product, so it doesn't have a version. It's a design patten. So either you misunderstood, or your client doesn't know what (s)he's talking about.
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Re: MVC 3

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Hi,

But we have MVC 2 and MVC 3 in Microsoft Asp.Net
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I don't know ASP.NET, but that's probably the version of the framework. Differences in the implementation of the MVC design pattern.
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Re: MVC 3

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hi,

yes, you are right. thanks for your help

Thanks,
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Yes, it's Microsoft's Marketing Team's attempt to lay claim that MVC was their idea, by calling their MVC framework "MVC".
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Jenk wrote:Yes, it's Microsoft's Marketing Team's attempt to lay claim that MVC was their idea, by calling their MVC framework "MVC".
How are they claiming it was their idea? ASP.NET MVC is an add-on to the .NET framework to produce an MVC architecture applications.
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By calling it "MVC" and not something sensible. It is their attempt, as Microsoft always do, to swing search results and belief that they created an idea. Feel free to ignore this as an anti-Microsoft rant, because that is exactly what it is. :)
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Jenk wrote:By calling it "MVC" and not something sensible. It is their attempt, as Microsoft always do, to swing search results and belief that they created an idea. Feel free to ignore this as an anti-Microsoft rant, because that is exactly what it is. :)
Rant or not,

I just don't understand what your problem with them using MVC in the name of their software is, because that's exactly what the component is. It's an implementation of MVC. Maybe we just have different views. I had no impression it was their "idea". Just curious is all.

It's not like they called it MICROSOFT-VIEW-CONTROLLER ;)
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My problem is that it is called just "MVC", and nothing but "MVC". Basically, the exact same name as an existing entity - software or pattern. That's my beef with it, they cannot settle for calling it something a little less ambiguous, and have to try and steal someone else's thunder. They've done this for years.. "Word", "Access", "Excel" etc.
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It's called ASP.NET MVC, not just MVC.

What would you suggest they call a MVC geared component as? ASP.NET *....* ?

Where I come from, we call a goose a goose, and a duck a duck :D
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"MVC Framework" :P
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Re: MVC 3

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Jenk wrote:"MVC Framework" :P
:roll:

ASP.NET is already a framework though. Sooo.. ASP.NET Framework MVC Framework perhaps is more appropriate :mrgreen:

Joking aside, to each his own :drunk:
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No, because ASP.NET is not ambiguous with a pre-existing entity. MVC is :D
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Re: MVC 3

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ASP.NET is traditionally associated with WebForms but in truth the .NET framework is modular enough that it even before ASP.NET MVC it wasn't difficult to extend .NET with your own web framework. There were several MVC frameworks available in .NET before Microsoft created their own.
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