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MVC 3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:49 pm
by girish24041984
hi,
Is there any thing called "MVC 3" in php. I searched for MVC 3 but not able to find it, although i know what is MVC in php. my client gave me php application to convert it in "MVC 3" architecture. please give some links so that i can understand it better.
thanks,
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:26 pm
by Jonah Bron
AFIK, there's no such thing as MVC 3 (or MVC 2 or MVC 1 for that matter). It's not a product, so it doesn't have a version. It's a design patten. So either you misunderstood, or your client doesn't know what (s)he's talking about.
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:30 pm
by girish24041984
Hi,
But we have MVC 2 and MVC 3 in Microsoft Asp.Net
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:49 pm
by Jonah Bron
I don't know ASP.NET, but that's probably the version of the framework. Differences in the implementation of the MVC design pattern.
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:51 pm
by girish24041984
hi,
yes, you are right. thanks for your help
Thanks,
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:40 am
by Jenk
Yes, it's Microsoft's Marketing Team's attempt to lay claim that MVC was their idea, by calling their MVC framework "MVC".
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:52 am
by John Cartwright
Jenk wrote:Yes, it's Microsoft's Marketing Team's attempt to lay claim that MVC was their idea, by calling their MVC framework "MVC".
How are they claiming it was their idea? ASP.NET MVC is an add-on to the .NET framework to produce an MVC architecture applications.
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:09 pm
by Jenk
By calling it "MVC" and not something sensible. It is their attempt, as Microsoft always do, to swing search results and belief that they created an idea. Feel free to ignore this as an anti-Microsoft rant, because that is exactly what it is.

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:58 pm
by John Cartwright
Jenk wrote:By calling it "MVC" and not something sensible. It is their attempt, as Microsoft always do, to swing search results and belief that they created an idea. Feel free to ignore this as an anti-Microsoft rant, because that is exactly what it is.

Rant or not,
I just don't understand what your problem with them using MVC in the name of their software is, because that's exactly what the component is. It's an implementation of MVC. Maybe we just have different views. I had no impression it was their "idea". Just curious is all.
It's not like they called it MICROSOFT-VIEW-CONTROLLER

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:21 am
by Jenk
My problem is that it is called just "MVC", and nothing but "MVC". Basically, the exact same name as an existing entity - software or pattern. That's my beef with it, they cannot settle for calling it something a little less ambiguous, and have to try and steal someone else's thunder. They've done this for years.. "Word", "Access", "Excel" etc.
Re: MVC 3
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:33 am
by John Cartwright
It's called ASP.NET MVC, not just MVC.
What would you suggest they call a MVC geared component as? ASP.NET *....* ?
Where I come from, we call a goose a goose, and a duck a duck

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:53 am
by Jenk
"MVC Framework"

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:59 am
by John Cartwright
Jenk wrote:"MVC Framework"

ASP.NET is already a framework though. Sooo.. ASP.NET Framework MVC Framework perhaps is more appropriate
Joking aside, to each his own

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:13 am
by Jenk
No, because ASP.NET is not ambiguous with a pre-existing entity. MVC is

Re: MVC 3
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:43 am
by Blackshawk
ASP.NET is traditionally associated with WebForms but in truth the .NET framework is modular enough that it even before ASP.NET MVC it wasn't difficult to extend .NET with your own web framework. There were several MVC frameworks available in .NET before Microsoft created their own.