Updates for 2005-03-22

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Updates for 2005-03-22

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As some may notice quickly, there have been a few changes to the posting and private message pages.
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    button was added (alt-p access-key)
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    button was updated to show the new syntax features in the code hint.
    [*][img] button was adjusted from alt-p to alt-m
    [*]the textarea is now full width and monospace font 
    [*]Added a little love note about posting code correctly... [/list]
    
    Carry on, private!
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Post by Deemo »

go feyd!
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Post by Ambush Commander »

That's pretty awesome. The monospace textarea boxes will help immensely when posting code, and the reminder is very good.

However, I have a few beefs with the new setup: first of all, the font size in the box is way to small (I prefer Courier New, 10pt), and I think it's kind of awkward to have it this small.

Plus, the full width causes it to go over to the very edge, I'd recommend adding a 5px right-margin to the text box or increasing the padding in the containing cell. All very minor things. I like the change a lot.
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Ambush Commander wrote:However, I have a few beefs with the new setup: first of all, the font size in the box is way to small (I prefer Courier New, 10pt), and I think it's kind of awkward to have it this small.
Set a minimum font size ;)
Ambush Commander wrote:Plus, the full width causes it to go over to the very edge, I'd recommend adding a 5px right-margin to the text box or increasing the padding in the containing cell.
I played around with that for a while before updating. It didn't take after a while, so I just said "meh." It works fine as is. I'll play around with it some more, time permitting.
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Set a minimum font size
Hmph, I tried that, and it doesn't seem to scale correctly for textarea boxes. I'll have to look into tweaking that. Hmmm...
I played around with that for a while before updating. It didn't take after a while, so I just said "meh." It works fine as is. I'll play around with it some more, time permitting.
That's okay. It's not that bad. Methinks it's just the font-size. Although that's just my opinion.
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Set a minimum font size
????

(I would like to see it larger, too.)
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you guys may want to realize the font size hasn't changed from the "old" way..
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starting to look famillar agian with the buttons across the top.
Oh it is almost looking like when I joined oh so long ago.
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Post by Ambush Commander »

You guys may want to realize the font size hasn't changed from the "old" way..
But different fonts render differently even when their pixel sizes are the same. The best example is Arial vs. Times New Roman

Arial 12pt looks way to big and bulky, while Times New Roman 10pt is very small.

But, size wise,

Arial 10pt takes up about the same amount of space as Times New Roman 12pt.

Just an observation.
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Re: Updates for 2005-03-22

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feyd wrote: [*]the textarea is now full width and monospace font ;)
Gotta say, the new monospace font makes it *really* challenging to read my typing. I have a fairly strong visual problem, and the old font setting worked much better.

Further, the suggestion to "set a minimum font size" helps not one bit: I cant set a font size ON THAT ELEMENT ONLY, without using a css override, which I cant honestly think you want all users to do. ;)

All other fonts are fine, but the monospace font (at the same font size) is impossibly small.

Please increase the fontsize to compensate for the relatively smaller size of monospace fonts.
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Post by feyd »

I'm getting tired of the whining every time we change something... :roll:
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Post by Ambush Commander »

Whoo! The font size is bigger! Yay! Hopefully, our whining is not about something aesthetic, but rather a usability issue.
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feyd wrote:I'm getting tired of the whining every time we change something... :roll:
I should have elaborated and explained that the other 4 changes are fantastic, and I love them!

Further, the only one that presented a problem for me isnt all bad: I like the full width, and I dont mind monospace. I just dont like the font size.

Thats a better than 80% appreciation rate! Thats fantastic! :)

But to be a little blunt, complaining that I cannot see what I type is not a WHINE, its a legitimate and serious usability problem. Calling feedback (especially non-trivial feedback) whining is guaranteed to leave users two choices: Leave, or suffer.

I'm sure you dont want that to be our only choices.
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Post by Joe »

I have to agree with you Roja. We must respect other peoples opinions at this community.
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Post by feyd »

it was more a reference to the whining that happened when we were attacked.. ;)
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