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office 2008 for Linux??

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Now that MS is going to release a new Mac version for office. Could Microsoft deliver a Linux version??

If MS does it , I will see the company with new eyes. MS should develop Office in as many platform as possible.

I know there is Open Office . But in real life, a company that shares office document with clients need a 100% compatible program.

I will not buy Vista, But I will definitively buy office.


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yacahuma wrote:Now that MS is going to release a new Mac version for office. Could Microsoft deliver a Linux version??

If MS does it , I will see the company with new eyes. MS should develop Office in as many platform as possible.

I know there is Open Office . But in real life, a company that shares office document with clients need a 100% compatible program.

I will not buy Vista, But I will definitively buy office.


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You must be kidding! You think that MS would want to sell software for an OS that competes with its own OS??
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The anti-ms in me is saying it won't happen, because MS have never considered Linux a threat, but Mac has picked up a nice chunk of the market and is a threat, so they'll want that market share to use (and pay) for at least some of their software.

But maybe, just maybe, MS are spreading their wings and not entirely relying upon their OS having the monopoly. But like I said, I'm anti-ms :P
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Jenk wrote:The anti-ms in me is saying it won't happen, because MS have never considered Linux a threat, but Mac has picked up a nice chunk of the market and is a threat, so they'll want that market share to use (and pay) for at least some of their software.

But maybe, just maybe, MS are spreading their wings and not entirely relying upon their OS having the monopoly. But like I said, I'm anti-ms :P
I think I agree... :P

Microsoft should really consider the fact that Linux as an OS is a nightmare for their market in OS...

Problem is and I think most would agree...there are minor quirks that make using Windows more appealing (even at the cost for less security and more annoyances). It's not so much Windows itself either, but the applications that are designed for it that give the OS it's *real* monopoly.

If it wasn't for UltraEdit relying on Windows I would probably switch to Ubuntu for my daily computer use...there are some font issues which I had with Ubuntu and managed to make acceptable...

UltraEdit, Photoshop and maybe a few other utilities are about all I rely on under Windows but if they were successfully ported over to Linux I would switch in a heart beat... :)

I'm all for commercialization of software...but I think operating systems are best handled by an open community such as Linux...
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I think they won't have time because they are going to have to allocate all their programmers to fixing the Vista codebase.

On a serious note though, I don't see it happening for a variety of reasons, namely that Linux is their biggest competitor. I would venture to guess they only created office for Mac in the first place to take out Lotus or similar competitor.
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yacahuma wrote:MS should develop Office in as many platform as possible.
Whould you mind to explain why you think that they should? I can see many reasons why they should not do this (eg: protect their own line of operating systems and everythings that comes with it...)
yacahuma wrote: in real life, a company that shares office document with clients need a 100% compatible program.
And in real life a company usually has one base image that it will install on all it's end-user pc's to make the administrators life easier.. And thus, ms-office will be company wide compatible ... And usually even between other companies, since most of them are a windows environment too (and i know that there are some IT companies that think different but right now they're just a margin).

Notice that i explicitely mentionned the corporate environment... Home users are only interesting if if means that they'd like to use the same programs at their office...
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Continue pushing for support of the open document standards. We don't need the same application on all platforms, we just need a universally accepted format. This likely won't happen for years, but we can always hope and push for it.

I don't want Office 2008 on my Mac, but I'll likely need to get it to maintain compatibility with other institutions I deal with. Luckily, it's cheaper on the Mac. :)
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Continue pushing for support of the open document standards. We don't need the same application on all platforms, we just need a universally accepted format. This likely won't happen for years, but we can always hope and push for it.
Good point :)
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great comments

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Open format will be one way, But even If I dont want to admit it myself, office is the most polished product out there. It is also the oldest product(as far as I know) There is no mistake that MS has a lot of experience in Office and they do spend a lot of money on it. An it makes sense since is one of their mayor source of income. Even if MS support an Open format it will be nice to use the strongest product on the best platform (linux).


I also agree that linux has it fonts issues. I think they are getting better. After some playing my ubuntu looks almost as good as windows(in terms of fonts). The font issues will have to be resolve.
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feyd wrote:Continue pushing for support of the open document standards. We don't need the same application on all platforms, we just need a universally accepted format. This likely won't happen for years, but we can always hope and push for it.

I don't want Office 2008 on my Mac, but I'll likely need to get it to maintain compatibility with other institutions I deal with. Luckily, it's cheaper on the Mac. :)
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I wasn't suggesting OOXML be the standard over any other proposed standard. So.. whatever. :roll:
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feyd wrote:
I wasn't suggesting OOXML be the standard over any other proposed standard. So.. whatever. :roll:
Neither do I :) I endorse your opinion :)
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feyd wrote:Continue pushing for support of the open document standards. We don't need the same application on all platforms, we just need a universally accepted format. This likely won't happen for years, but we can always hope and push for it.
Yes. You can see why Microsoft tried to rig the ISO elections by paying its VARs to join just to vote for its standard.
feyd wrote:I don't want Office 2008 on my Mac, but I'll likely need to get it to maintain compatibility with other institutions I deal with. Luckily, it's cheaper on the Mac. :)
Have you tried Open Office? There is a Mac version. I have not had any problems in several years with compatibility.

In fact, recently I have had a new experience of clients not being able to open Office documents from other versions of Office. So they send them to me and I happily open them in Open Office (on Linux of course), save them back using OO's general 2000/XP format. Then they can open them. Pretty funny.
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My preferred Office-type application is Pages, a component in iWork. :)

So far, I'm not especially enjoying things running on Java on my Mac, so I've stayed away from even attempting OpenOffice lately. Once I take the time to install Java SDK 6, that may change things, but I haven't had the spare time.
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arborint wrote:In fact, recently I have had a new experience of clients not being able to open Office documents from other versions of Office. So they send them to me and I happily open them in Open Office (on Linux of course), save them back using OO's general 2000/XP format. Then they can open them. Pretty funny.
Extremely funny! :lol:
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