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best linux distro for php development?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:51 am
by m3mn0n
If you have one, what is your recommendation?

I'm so sick and tired of Windows, i ran out and bought some blank CDs to burn me 2 maybe 3 distros from linuxiso.org. :)

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:37 am
by hedge
You may want to also look at the *BSD's. I currently run OpenBSD (support theo he's from Calgary) but have also ran FreeBSD.

If you are set on linux I would try Debian or Slackware.

If you're new to linux then Redhat is probably the easiest to setup and you can practically find anything in an rpm.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:24 pm
by daven
Redhat is the easiest, and comes with PHP, MySQL, KDE, and other useful things.

*BSDs tend to be better for production servers, since you can configure them with more detail, but they are a pain to set up if you don't know how (especially OpenBSD).

Gentoo is much smaller than RedHat, but does not have RPMs (redhat package managers).

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:06 pm
by phice
I really want RedHat 8 (whatever is the newest release), but can't find a good reliable place to download it.

I'm going to back up my data tonight, download a copy, and try it (maybe) tomorrow. If not tomorrow, then I'll do it Saturday, and give you my results! :)

In the mean time, some (very sexy) screenshots of RedHat:

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UPDATE:

After several hours of trying to burn the CD, I finally burned the CDs correctly, and running RedHat 9 just smoothly. ;) I love it. *plays around*

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:31 am
by m3mn0n
heh phice, where was your reliable source? linuxiso.org?

And yea i've never even used Linux let alone could be able to install a version of BSD/Linux targeted at pros & experienced users.

I hear from places that Redhat + Mandrake + Debian are the most user friendly, i'll give them all a go if my HD holds out. :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:55 am
by DeGauss
Debian is good for packages... Has a similar systemto red hat's RPM.

However, if you want to be 1337, you'll definately want to install some kind of BSD ;)

Go NetBSD! WOO!

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:39 am
by volka
can anybody tell me why KDE is so popular?
Real men use fluxbox :roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:58 am
by phice
Oromian wrote:heh phice, where was your reliable source? linuxiso.org?

And yea i've never even used Linux let alone could be able to install a version of BSD/Linux targeted at pros & experienced users.

I hear from places that Redhat + Mandrake + Debian are the most user friendly, i'll give them all a go if my HD holds out. :wink:
My source: http://www.filemirrors.com/tops.src?perpage=30

Just look for files shrike-i386-disc1.iso, shrike-i386-disc2.iso & shrike-i386-disc3.iso
It takes up 3 cds.


Also, I'm having trouble installing Apache2 into RedHat... I do a ./configure, and everything works until I type in 'make', and it brings up an error 'No file to make from'...

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:43 pm
by m3mn0n
OK cool thanks!

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:48 pm
by m3mn0n
Oh no! No more easy preinstalled PHPTriad for windows. :( :wink:

/me runs off to search for Linux tutorials

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:54 pm
by daven
Fluxbox, Volka?

Why would you destroy your beautiful Linux box by using a GUI? Hardcore hackers do everything by the command line. *grin*

--note, I am not that hardcore.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:33 pm
by phice
Oromian wrote:Oh no! No more easy preinstalled PHPTriad for windows. :( :wink:

/me runs off to search for Linux tutorials
Talk to me on AIM and we'll chat about installing apache, php, and mysql :)

aim: er3et

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:16 pm
by phice
While trying to install Apache, I come across a problem when the ./configure trys to test to see if it's a good install.

Here's what I did:
$ CC="pgcc" OPTIM="-O2" \
> ./configure --prefix=/home/don/apache \
> --enable-module=rewrite --enable-shared=rewrite \
> --enable-module=proxy --enable-shared=proxy
Configuring for Apache, Version 1.3.27
+ using installation path layout: Apache (config.layout)
Creating Makefile
Creating Configuration.apaci in src
+ enabling mod_so for DSO support
Creating Makefile in src
+ configured for Linux platform
+ setting C pre-processor to /usr/bin/cpp
+ checking for system header files
+ adding selected modules
o rewrite_module uses ConfigStart/End
disabling DBM support for mod_rewrite
(perhaps you need to add -ldbm, -lndbm or -lgdbm to EXTRA_LIBS)
+ using builtin Expat
+ checking sizeof various data types
+ doing sanity check on compiler and options
** A test compilation with your Makefile configuration
** failed. The below error output from the compilation
** test will give you an idea what is failing. Note that
** Apache requires an ANSI C Compiler, such as gcc.

======== Error Output for sanity check ========
cd ..; pgcc -O2 -DLINUX=22 -DNO_DBM_REWRITEMAP -DUSE_HSREGEX -DUSE_EXPAT -I./lib
/expat-lite `./apaci` -o helpers/dummy helpers/dummy.c -lm
/bin/sh: line 1: pgcc: command not found
make: *** [dummy] Error 127
============= End of Error Report =============

Aborting!
Any help?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:46 am
by jason
Yes, volka is right. Real men do use fluxbox! Does everything a good window manager should.

My personal Linux preference is SuSE. It's easy to configure and work with (YaST is very nice, and very much worth the extra cash) and maintain. I haven't had any problem getting anything to run on the system.

SuSE is also nice because everything is just so logical (they actually use /opt for what it was meant for!)

Wheee!

my thoughts...

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:11 pm
by llimllib
Fluxbox def is nice, but it lacks a couple of things I need:
  • nice applets for my media player on the taskbar
    pretty windows
    quick-launch icons
    a taskbar
    a four-square virtual desktop chooser
for these reasons, I prefer KDE or GNOME (I prefer GNOME, but I'm trying real hard to like KDE right now)

As for distributions, I'm a bit of a junkie. Currently, I just left RH8 for Vector Linux, based on Slackware. It's pretty nice, but I don't think it's a long term keeper for me. Maybe I'll try again to get Gentoo to work next. Maybe once I get Gnome 2.2 working I'll like Vector better? we'll see. Either way, playing with my OS is fun for me.