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Psst... How about this: Either pay the man how much he charges, or learn to do it yourself! :) It's the 1337 way to do it...
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$200 is nothing for a DB. I recommend putting something on the bottom of every page with your email / phone copyright info etc...
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Post by pilau »

hawleyjr wrote:$200 is nothing for a DB.
Wow. I must get into this business. And fast.
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Apparently there are a lot of people that are happy to spend that money :D
On the other hands, $200 is peanuts for a nice website and a good db design.

But for a design like the one in http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/39000/ShowPost.aspx i wouldn't pay ;)
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Post by pickle »

Note it says $200+. My last website was $1000 and my next is quoted at $1300 8)
Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.
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What I wanna know is how with advanced php skills [like my own] how can i get projects like that when my design skills are lacking? I can create great backends, but I can't create a nice looking layout for my life... what to do? what to DO!?!
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Post by hawleyjr »

There is more that goes into a database then just:

їcode]

CREATE TABLE `db_mydb`.`test_table` (
`Id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
`fld2` int(11) NULL,
`fld3` int(11) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (`Id`)
);

ї/code]

Remember, there is maintenance, upgrades, admin sections, reports, db structure, queries and more...
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wait... there is?!?!! :wink:
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Post by imstupid »

Todd_Z wrote:What I wanna know is how with advanced php skills [like my own] how can i get projects like that when my design skills are lacking? I can create great backends, but I can't create a nice looking layout for my life... what to do? what to DO!?!
not to pull a method_man and take the post way off topic, but I have the exact opposite problem. with a graphic design background, I was able to struggle through html on notepad because the outcome looked somewhat decent no matter how sluggish the code was. There are a couple good groups out there that list the sites which stand out in terms of design- let me know if you want a couple links and I'll send them your way. It's then a matter of determining what "good design" means to your clients and keeping the form-follows-function principal close at all times.
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Todd_Z wrote:What I wanna know is how with advanced php skills [like my own] how can i get projects like that when my design skills are lacking? I can create great backends, but I can't create a nice looking layout for my life... what to do? what to DO!?!
Not everyone wants a front-end doing by you... they want specialist skills in programming something ;)

Most of my freelance has been PHP only (functions/classes etc)... somebody else just uses what I do and put's it in a GUI... I can do both either way but I definitely prefer PHP coding most of the time... equally it's refreshing to do a front-end once in a while.
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Post by Todd_Z »

Personally I hate front-end design - i never feel satissfied and it just frustrates me because of browser incompatibility - Php scripts have a deffinite end and I feel like i accomplished something nice when I can look back and see a completed project. But I would deffinitely know how to make at least basic looking pages for my php scripts to be displayed in...
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