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What size do you make fixed-width sites?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:21 pm
by Luke
I was just wondering whether 800 x 600 is still the most popular.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:23 pm
by feyd
The last "fixed width" (I use that term loosely, as technically it was fluid) site I did was for 800x600. That was three to four years ago.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:30 pm
by nickvd
800x600 (max-width of 760px is safe across most/all browsers)

Though I hate making them, my clients seem to love them.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:30 pm
by Burrito
I make them 780 width to provide room for the vertical scroll bar and give a little padding, otherwise, even people at 800x600 have to scroll horizontally.

I'd like to know how yahoo is doing it now to display a width that is greater if your screen settings are greater than 800 pixels wide. As far as I can see, they're not using javascript.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:49 pm
by nickvd
Burrito wrote:I make them 780 width to provide room for the vertical scroll bar and give a little padding, otherwise, even people at 800x600 have to scroll horizontally.
Are you sure 780 will work with ie? I just tried and it's causing h-scrolling. 770 works w/o page margins, and 760 works no matter what (at least in my testing)

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:20 pm
by Luke
Man... I'm trying to make a site that is fluid, with a minimum and maximum width, and it's pretty difficult. Any pointers?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:32 pm
by Zoxive
By now, i use 1024 x 768.

~960 Pixels wide more specifically....

-NSF

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:32 pm
by Burrito
nickvd wrote:Are you sure 780 will work with ie? I just tried and it's causing h-scrolling. 770 works w/o page margins, and 760 works no matter what (at least in my testing)
no, you're right, at 780 the scroll bar appears, but they're not forced to scroll. If you take the margins off, the scroll bar appears (if I remember correctly) but you can't even move it. While potentially an eye sore, scrolling isn't required to see any content on the page.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:47 pm
by s.dot
From my statistics 800x600 is second most popular. Behind 1024x768.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:41 pm
by alex.barylski
800x600

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:42 am
by Chris Corbyn
nickvd wrote:Though I hate making them, my clients seem to love them.
They do have a nice "paper" sort of feel. Because they are rigid it feels more like you're viewing a document. I personally quite like fixed-width layouts providing they aren't all squished up in the middle of the page. Even on a fixed-width layout whitespace is your friend.

I still design everything I do around 800x600 (760px max width).

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:28 am
by theYinYeti
Fixed-width is a bad practice... I hope multi-columns with CSS will soon be broadly supported.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:55 am
by Luke
theYinYeti wrote:Fixed-width is a bad practice...
Why is that?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:36 pm
by Chris Corbyn
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
theYinYeti wrote:Fixed-width is a bad practice...
Why is that?
I second that; how can it possibly be a bad practise? Sounds more like personal preference to me. That's like saying "pink tones in web design are bad practise", but really, I quite like pink.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:51 pm
by Luke