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Hey every body, have a question :D

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:29 am
by sticksys
I'm working on a Php Portal for sell, you can buy for it design [my company will make it].

you can manage polls, blocks, articles[bbcode], replays, you can add admins, you can manage a gallery who included, and alot more.

the Portal will be updated almost every week and who ever will but will get the update for free.



how much you think that Project can cost?




thanks in advanced =]

Re: Hey every body, have a question :D

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:18 am
by onion2k
sticksys wrote:I'm working on a Php Portal for sell, you can buy for it design [my company will make it].
you can manage polls, blocks, articles[bbcode], replays, you can add admins, you can manage a gallery who included, and alot more.
the Portal will be updated almost every week and who ever will but will get the update for free.
how much you think that Project can cost?
There's a lot of open source projects (PHPNuke, Drupal, MovableType, etc) that do exactly what you're suggesting, and they're free. So I wouldn't expect to pay very much unless this portal either does something exceptional that the rest don't, or has really great support.

Also, if I was buying some software and the vendor said it would be updated weekly, I would think that is a very bad thing. Either it's not finished yet, or there are lots of bugs that need sorting out. I'd rather buy something I can install and not worry about upgrading for 6 months.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:57 am
by m3mn0n
Yep. Nowadays pretty much everything common (CMS, BB Systems, Blog systems, etc.) has been covered by a good free alternative. And even better paid alternatives that are all better than the free ones in their own little way.

So unless you can add a new and interesting spin on it, and/or be innovative and match all the good existing features and add a bunch of your own, then I wouldn't expect to make a lot selling such scripts.

I'd need to see a demo of it to give you a fair & educated price estimate but I'd say sub-$100 USD for sure, based on the things that I said above.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:24 am
by feyd
Moved to The Enterprise.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:40 pm
by sticksys
yeah but, a guy who want to open a serious website, will not take something for free...



enought talking, i'll finish the english version and you all see =]

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:17 pm
by nielsene
No a person who wants to open a serious website, WILL grab as many free components that work well enough and then customize/pay for customization as needed.

For most websites its not the "infrastructure" thats all that important -- its the content, design, and community. So if the free infrastructure works, even if its only 75% there, its cheaper/easier to enhance that than to buy a commercial system.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:33 pm
by Roja
nielsene wrote:No a person who wants to open a serious website, WILL grab as many free components that work well enough and then customize/pay for customization as needed.
Not to mention, a serious website will use a tested and proven codebase, not one whipped together recently. postnuke and phpnuke have had books written on them, and have been around for years. phpbb has been around for years. The list goes on.

That level of proven functionality, and security support is hard to get from a commercial offering.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:45 pm
by nielsene
Just in case, we're (I'm not at least) not trying to discourage you. Just hoping to help you understand how a lot of people approach web site construction, etc. You can learn a lot from writing various Portal architectures, just don't expect to be able to sell them for much.

A better business model, is normally, learning how to efficiently mod and extend the popular existing portals (phpNuke, PostNuke, Mambo (or whatever its new name will be, etc). The business is in the the differences from everyone else, not in the similiarities.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:28 pm
by onion2k
I'm constantly amazed at people willing to spend £10,000 on a website rather than paying for someone to customise an existing application for 1/5th of that.

And then I remember they pay me £10,000 for these websites, and that makes me smile.