Mailing list and server questions & about limits, all in 1

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Waffa
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Mailing list and server questions & about limits, all in 1

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I plan to open do different mailing lists for different purposes. I was thinking to put them 2 different topic but i think all this info is connected.

1. first (most important one) send email to 1000-4000 emails every couple of months (emails must arrive whit in 2 days, bounces processing really important so i can see who's email is active who is not - would be good if invalid or not active emails could be excluded automatically)

second list should be able to send email to hundreds of thousands email addresses
a) fast delivery whit in days (i think i need dedicated server for this so i do not think i will choose this one)
b) slow delivery whit in couple of weeks
- here i would also need invalid addresses to be excluded next time automatically

Notes about emails/newsletters
most emails are in text but have URL addresses. emails should have link where they can unsubscribe & also method for just sending email unsubscribe@mydomail.com to unsubscribing, i should be able to see list of people who blacklisted themselves.

First at all, is Swift Mailer 3.3 best free tool for all this, right:) ? Can it do this better then phplist (it is updated now, also the phpmailer is updated to v2.3 - i seem to use 1.73 ihow does this effect and is it important )?
Most emails are in Estonian ( Ä Ö Ü Õ ) but some of them might be also in russian.


I use shared hosting from Lunarpages so i can send like 600-800 emails per hour 20 per minute ( i think its as good it can be for shared hosting) so 200 000 emails should take 2 weeks if 14 000 is limit per day.
What is best way to send them every after 2 minutes to send 19-20 emails or to send every after 6-7 seconds to send one email to stay in limits? Is there different level of skill needed to set it up one or other way?


My most important question is, what free email addresses / smtp servers setup i should use for mailing list? It does matter right? I like Google Aps but if switching to google apps (changing MX records) limits sending emails then - i better not change. Does it matter what real address appears as "send from" and what is "reply" address, and what is for bounces (bounces can be different from reply/send from address right?) ?





& some other less important things ( i hope...)


Can someone take look my bounces and say if they see anything terrible wrong whit this, what can later cause me to be flagged as spammer or something like that? Is any of these problems fixed also by switching to swift (what i want to do).
Right now when i send whit phplist the bounce email shows ( - comes to my horde mail box, so i actually configured something wrong i think because bounces newer show up in phplist, but it does not matter because i want to change from phplist anyway) :


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Received: from bay0-mc8-f6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.238]) by bay0-imc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444);
     Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:24 -0800
Received: from hoori.lunarmania.com ([67.210.98.30]) by bay0-mc8-f6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668);
     Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:24 -0800
Received: from maroka0 by hoori.lunarmania.com with local (Exim 4.69)
    (envelope-from <maroka0@hoori.lunarmania.com>)
    id 1LFaEO-0002Hz-NY
    for [i]xx[/i]_helisza@hotmail.com; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:24 -0800
To: [i]xx[/i]_helisza@hotmail.com
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Head_j=F5ululaup=E4eva!_Teile_on_e-kaart_(Merry_Christmas,_you_?=  =?UTF-8?Q?have_a_e-card_)?=
Recieved: 
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:24 -0800
From: [i][myEmailaddress][/i]@waffa.net
Message-ID: <7a3da3f7ccfe9e4a7613cb0d41d6eda0@emaililist.abok.ee>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73]
X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.8
X-MessageID: 25
X-ListMember: xxdi_helisza@hotmail.com
Precedence: [b]bulk[/b]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hoori.lunarmania.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32265 32002] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - hoori.lunarmania.com
X-Source: /usr/bin/php
X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/maroka0/public_html/emaililist/admin/index.php 
X-Source-Dir: [b]maroka.net[/b]:/public_html/emaillist/admin
Return-Path: maroka0@hoori.lunarmania.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2008 20:21:24.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[31701B30:01C96605]
 
 
one other one:
 
X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no
Received: from hoori.lunarmania.com (hoori.lunarmania.com [67.210.98.30])
    by Relayhost3.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032DDD5A1F
    for <-_-@hot.ee>; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:21:21 +0200 (EET)
Received: from maroka0 by hoori.lunarmania.com with local (Exim 4.69)
    (envelope-from <maroka0@hoori.lunarmania.com>)
    id 1LFaEL-0002ES-Nv
    for -_-@hot.ee; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:21 -0800
To: -_-@hot.ee
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Head_j=F5ululaup=E4eva!_Teile_on_e-kaart_(Merry_Christmas,_you_?=  =?UTF-8?Q?have_a_e-card_)?=
Recieved: 
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:21:21 -0800
From: [i][myEmailaddress][/i]@waffa.net
Message-ID: <c06e2d1b6e478b7410a4a2ba8acf036c@emaililist.abok.ee>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73]
X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.8
X-MessageID: 25
X-ListMember: -_-@hot.ee
Precedence: [b]bulk[/b]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hoori.lunarmania.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hot.ee
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32265 32002] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - hoori.lunarmania.com
X-Source: /usr/bin/php
X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php /home/maroka0/public_html/emaililist/admin/index.php 
X-Source-Dir: [b]maroka.net[/b]:/public_html/emaililist/admin
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Notes: Maroka.Net does NOT exist in this server, its whit totally other hosting all together.
maroka0@hoori.lunarmania.com - this email address i have newer made actually, its something like root@server.com i think. Why it uses this maroka0 and is this X-Source-Dir: important at all? Should i ask from my host to change it or can i actually benefit from this somehow ?


Is this also important that if i see it right hoori.lunarmania.com is ... listed at http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/looku ... com&full=1 ? What this means that emails are most likelly labeled as spam from lunarpages ?
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