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Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:34 am
by matthijs
anyone know of a monkey species intelligent enough to be trained to upgrade wordpress installations? Including making backups of the database, checking if plugins still work, etc. I badly need one now. This last month I have been exclusively been busy with only one thing: trying to keep up with the weekly (!!) updates of wordpress. 4 upgrades in 1 month!
As soon as I have finished upgrading the about 15 wp sites I maintain, a notification pops up "Please upgrade now. Version x.x.x. is available"
I'm at a point that I am about to set my email and phone to auto-reply: "Sorry, at the moment we're busy. Please call back next month."
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:42 am
by Eran
why do you update so fast? unless there are critical fixes, let it gestate for a while until it reaches a stable point.
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:10 am
by matthijs
most of the updates are security updates
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:05 am
by JAB Creations
Matt, have you looked closely at WP's code? I mean it's a nightmare! I found stuff like a function to echo something...why?!
Have you considered a different blog software or possibly writing your own? I'm writing my own and it's (though not just yet completely) reasonably functional and plays nicely with other modules (e.g. chat, forums, etc). My WP blog is outright difficult to work with and I can't wait to completely replace it with the next version of my site.

Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:29 am
by Eran
lets be reasonable here - it will take ALOT of time to replace all the functionality you get from Wordpress + plugins. There are thousands of plugins that add a lot of functionality. Not to mention that its UI is pretty good despite the code base looking somewhat funky.
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:01 am
by matthijs
I know it's code is not top-notch. But that is by far out weighted by the fact that it is a very easy to use system, user-friendly to non-tech people, has a nice admin interface, has tons of support/community, is flexible etc
I've seen and worked with many other free open source blog/cms systems, but they all have serious drawbacks compared to wp. Not saying wp is perfect (not at all), but just that anything else I've seen is far behind
And Pytrin is right. It took many years of development for a large group of people (among which I'm sure many good programmers) to get wp where it is today. If I try to get to 10% of the features it'll take me 5 years on my own. And by then that 5% is down to 1%..
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:35 am
by onion2k
matthijs wrote:And Pytrin is right. It took many years of development for a large group of people (among which I'm sure many good programmers) to get wp where it is today. If I try to get to 10% of the features it'll take me 5 years on my own. And by then that 5% is down to 1%..
Nah. You could get 90% of Wordpress done on your own in 6 months. But it'd be the easy 90%. The other 10%
would take you 5 years. And it's the other 10% that sets it apart from what you can write yourself.
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:15 pm
by Eran
I don't think it will take several years to get what you need from it, but surely at least a couple of months - and without due justification (too much free time?) it just won't happen.
Re: Needed: upgrade monkey
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:21 am
by JAB Creations
Well what are those 10% things that are apparently exceptionally difficult to program? Are they really necessary? Maybe something difficult for one person isn't difficult to code for another, two minds definitely have the ability to do more then one on it's own after all.
