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Why are employers morons?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:56 am
by JPlush76
Here is a quote from a job I saw online, I've seen this many times as I'm sure you all have to.
-HTML/JHTML Coding by hand. No WYSIWYG Programs
isn't that like telling a carpenter that you dont want him to use any power tools, eventhough they'll speed up the job and cost half as much in time?

knowing how to hand code is obviously important but to say "NO POWER TOOLS" is a joke to me. You should want to use every tool you have to get the job done correctly and efficiently. maybe thats just me.

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:03 pm
by daven
I think I saw the same listing. *grin*

Personally, I do all of my coding by hand, but that is because I am anal. I can think of two reasons that an employer would demand hand coding:
1. They do not have dreamweaver/frontpage and do not want to purchase it
2. Such programs produce very sloppy code and bad habits. I have had to modify code from various people who use Dreamweaver. I always have to spend quite a bit of time fixing the code/making it readable.

True, editors do speed things up, but from a technical point of view they can be rather nasty.

This has been my anal-retentive rant for the day.

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:35 pm
by JAM
'WYSIWYG'-programmers I have no personal problem with, as long as the result is good and works. Keep it going...

But I still think that, as opposed to the 'hand coders', they have a bigger problem to solve problems. Someone that writes the code the harder way, also tend to easier understand it, hence know what to look into where an error occurs...

Of course very from case to case, just my 2cents...

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:43 pm
by JPlush76
Like I said earler.. If I want to hammer 10 nails. I could take out my hammer, hold the nail, line it up, start wackin away on it, then move to the next nail and hope I didn't bend that one...

or I could reach in my toolbox, grab a power nailer and bam, 10 nails in 10 seconds.

I find it most useful for building big table layouts. It would take 5x as long hand coding it.

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I should say that I wouldnt' hire someone that could ONLY use an WYSIWYG editor, but knowing how to handcode and knowing how to use tools go hand in hand as far as I'm concerned.

A good number of people use phpmyadmin to admin their databases, doesn't make them less of a programmer because they are slaving at a command line. know what I'm sayin?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:34 pm
by JAM
JPlush76 wrote:I should say that I wouldnt' hire someone that could ONLY use an WYSIWYG editor, but knowing how to handcode and knowing how to use tools go hand in hand as far as I'm concerned.
Very well said...

"If your interested, send in previous work/work based on the following..." is rarely seen, but imho its a good idea.