My week has been awful! I have no PHP Dev Heads!!!!

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Tami
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My week has been awful! I have no PHP Dev Heads!!!!

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Ya know, I have got an attitude and not very happy with my experiences with PHP Dev Heads!!!! :evil: I own a small company and NEED a reliable person who can work with me on a contractual basis. It seems that when I get a hold of someone good well, they get burned out or they are too busy to even deal with me due to my sister company who has more PHP stuff than I do. I think I have seen it all from ppl trying to steal stuff from servers :evil: :evil: , "I can't do this".....waaaa waaaa waaaa.

I know that I am blowing steam right now. But geez all's I want is someone who is very knowledgeable in php and who loves to work and someone who I can TRUST and be reliable! :wink: Oh and BTW don't think that ya can charge me out the wazzo for stuff that takes 30 minutes to do. Here ya go...Apache, Linux and yes its a Cobalt!

So.....If you are in the Dallas area and would like to help out a cool business owner, that is cool. Really, I am a layed back person. :D

You can contact me at info@skywebworks.com Thanks Tami :)
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Re: My week has been awful! I have no PHP Dev Heads!!!!

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Tami wrote:Ya know, I have got an attitude and not very happy with my experiences with PHP Dev Heads!!!! :evil: I own a small company and NEED a reliable person who can work with me on a contractual basis. It seems that when I get a hold of someone good well, they get burned out or they are too busy to even deal with me due to my sister company who has more PHP stuff than I do. I think I have seen it all from ppl trying to steal stuff from servers :evil: :evil: , "I can't do this".....waaaa waaaa waaaa.

I know that I am blowing steam right now. But geez all's I want is someone who is very knowledgeable in php and who loves to work and someone who I can TRUST and be reliable! :wink: Oh and BTW don't think that ya can charge me out the wazzo for stuff that takes 30 minutes to do. Here ya go...Apache, Linux and yes its a Cobalt!

So.....If you are in the Dallas area and would like to help out a cool business owner, that is cool. Really, I am a layed back person. :D

You can contact me at info@skywebworks.com Thanks Tami :)
Tami, you have email!

I think I have a solution that may work for both you and your sister firm..

Let me know..have a nice 4th of July!
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Post by jason »

Tami,

Just remember, if you are going to be contracting work to someone, still ask to see their resume. Just because a person says "Yeah, no problem, I have a website I did in PHP" doesn't mean they know how to program. Like any employee, a contractor should be interviewed. Just because they act like they know what they are doing, doesn't mean they do. I am not saying you don't know what you are doing, just a friendly reminder.
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Resumes

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Well, I have had tons of resumes and that is not an issue. It is ppl lying about it. People can blow smoke up your A** all of the time. I do know this from having 11 years of Human Resource Directorship under my belt.

I do agree with you......

So again anyone who thinks they want to work for my companies, Great....

Send your resume to info@skywebworks.com . Please be a local. Dallas area is preferred.

Tami :)
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Expectations

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Ya know, I have got an attitude and not very happy with my experiences with PHP Dev Heads!!!! icon_evil.gif I own a small company and NEED a reliable person who can work with me on a contractual basis.
Most people that *can* do this stuff *need* a paycheck too, not just contractual stuff. Not everyone, of course, but everyone has NEEDS.
It seems that when I get a hold of someone good well, they get burned out
Giving one person too much?
I know that I am blowing steam right now. But geez all's I want is someone who is very knowledgeable in php and who loves to work and someone who I can TRUST and be reliable!

Oh and BTW don't think that ya can charge me out the wazzo for stuff that takes 30 minutes to do.
What is 'up the wazoo?' to you? You want something done right, the first time, with no surprises? $80-$100/hour is reasonable, imo. You want someone who talks a good game but doesn't have many references, no good online portfolio, etc.? $25/hour.

However, you're not paying just to get something done. You're paying for someone to be reliable too. There's a BIG difference. If someone doesn't care about anything except the code, my company (http://www.tapinternet.com) could charge less. However, people expect to call during normal hours and get a human. They expect to have emails returned in a decent amount of time. They expect reliable treatment. To get that reliability, we have to charge more.

Having said all the above, we'd be happy to talk to you about contractual work, done right and on time, for reasonable rates, but we're not in Dallas. I assume you're *only* looking for locals, not distance contracting, right?

Wait:
So again anyone who thinks they want to work for my companies, Great....
So are you looking for employees or contractors? It doesn't seem very clear.
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re: Tami

Post by shareme »

I gather she is looking for that contractor that will drop everything to do her 30 minute project ..

Unfortunately that is not the case with most of us as we need to put food on the table..

I did suggest some possible solutions..

But as someone else said you pay for reliability and quality..

and with cut and paste it woudl do no good to suggest that she view code samples as her expertise is not in php..

If the projects were longer she could protect herself with a performance contract.. but thats not the case here..

Sorry I could not be of more help to you Tami..
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Post by jason »

mgkimsal makes some really good points. Programmers (not script kiddies) are not everywhere you look. It's a profession, and as much as it may irk some people, you can be a 17 year old programmer who knows what you are doing, and yet, still have a 40 year old who doesn't. But programmers can't just be programmers any more, they have to think "outside the code".

I charge no less than $40/hour..and I feel that is low compared to what I see out there. Granted though, I am not at your beckon call, I am a contractor with a real job that supports me just well, so taking extra work isn't needed. But I get asked. And they tell me what they want, and I tell them the price. Most often they balk, and this is unfortunate. In your mind, you want something "easy".

Take for example, the classic search engine. It's easy, right, I mean, nothing more than the ability to search through content on a site. That is what the employer see's. However, as time drags on, lots of other things (like user tracking, user login, manage of content, etc) gets thrown in there. Even a simple help desk isn't really "simple". This is a fate for so many contractors I know just starting out.

So I charge $40/hour minimum for what I do. I feel I have earned my reputation - people come to me or the forums I run to post job offerings, so I feel more the qualified in saying "Yes, I know what I am doing".

And when they tell me $40/hour is too much, I nod my head and smile. That's fine. If they want less quality, they can go to the script kiddie charging $20/hour and doesn't even understand the basics of normalizing a database.

Another thing that irks me: Price bartering. If I say $40/hour, I mean $40/hour, not "let's negotiate". However, this is almost expected in today's market, which seems rightfully unfair. Next time you go into the supermarket, haggle on the price of milk for a bit. See what they tell you (and where to stick it). If I say $40/hour, why do you feel you can better judge my worth and reply with $20/hour.

Also, concerning Resume's: You can fake a resume, yes, but you can't fake quality. References are their for a reason. I have never had a problem weeding the good seeds from the bad one's (Yes, I help with the hiring around here). Giving the person a programming test should be required! If they don't want to write a short 200 line program for you as a test, than who is to blame when they fall short?

I am just rambling, making very little sense now, but I want to leave you with one final though: You get what you pay for. If the pay sucks, so does the service.
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Post by hob_goblin »

personally, when I get out there into the job field.. i'm never going to fake a resume on anything serious. being overwhelmed by expectations and feeling a large obligation because you said "you had the ability", is a horrible feeling.. I've had bad experiences with it. So now, if someone asks me to do something, even if they offer an enormous reward, and I'm not currently well fit for the task.. I'll honestly say "Nah.. I can't do that.. maybe later when im more fit for it"
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Post by FlashMan »

I never do any jobs and offers but i want to notice that
any of messages of jason is very informationable, i reading it very gladly and i hope its can help me for my future jobs.
And i like PHP when i began to learn it i can't believe what i doing ealier :lol: and this is my first php forum site! And this is number one of others.

Thanx Jason :D
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