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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:26 am
by igoy
The Bottom Line is ...
"Everyone have their own Perspective and It's Right for Everybody"
:)

well, I love Linux, I have used it for while. but i coudn't switch over completely because I've been using windows for long time and I couldn't miss working on Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver, 3D max and Lightwave .. :). but All my sites are hosted on Linux, and I know both PHP and ASP, and no points to guessing which I use most.

Jason is right on his points and infolock is right on his. they have their own experiences with the stuff...

so Group Hug guys, Group Hug..

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:44 am
by Nay
Yay! Group hug!

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-Nay

ps: gotta love google :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:58 am
by infolock
MY EYES!! :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:26 am
by patrikG
I'm the guy on the right ;)

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:31 am
by twigletmac
Wow, PHP really does act as a steroid... 8O

Mac

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:37 am
by m3mn0n
lmfao

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:57 am
by Cruzado_Mainfrm
linux rox, but, compatibility and portability with windows is a nightmare, but STILL you can use windows apps in linux, if u know how (Wine)

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:06 am
by infolock
with all these windows and linux users, has anyone used the infamous Lindows system? :) I remember when the beta was out for it, but after their first release and so many bugs later, never heard much more about it. that is, besides windows trying to sue them for their name having the same tone as windows :P


edit :

btw, i was wondering about this jason :
That's not true. Laser mice work perfectly fine in Linux.
I have a Logitech laser mouse, and neither myself or the linux users that i know around my area could figure out why linux wouldn't recognize the mouse. maybe it was because it was going through a usb, maybe it was just because we are complete idiots. however, if i could just get someone to tell me how to get this to work, that would be great.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:59 am
by d3ad1ysp0rk
ya i heard about it, it's still around
dunno about anyone who uses it though

http://www.lindows.com/
$50

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:46 am
by igoy
Well, the Group Hug isn't working.... INFOLOCK ....
stop is before twigletmac gets cranky ... :twisted:

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:26 pm
by m3mn0n
Yeah Walmart still sells those Lindows bargain PC's....heh

Last I heard they are selling a lot with their "$199 PC!" ad campaign. I hope people do relize it doesn't include a monitor and comes with Lindows preinstalled before they purchase that monstrosity. :wink:

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:30 pm
by Heavy
Whether Linux supports laser mice (which I take as beeing optical mice) depends on kernel configuration. Take a really old linux distro and try to use usb devices on it. It is probably disabled by default, due to kernel code marked EXPERIMENTAL.

There should be nothing special about the mouse using another technology detecting movement, that's completely off topic! The mouse will work if the kernel supports what is jacked in, optical or not.

I have used Linux for a desktop myself for a while, then switched back to Windows because of instability of KDE at the time (mandrake).

I have learned to love linux as a server. Today I have scripted backups systems transferring only the data that has been changed over the Internet through a secure SSH tunnel every day. It is a 60 MB database and some CVS repositories, settings and such. Complete backup is often finished within a minute or two, even though we're downloading the backups through an ISDN connection. It sweet!

Recently got a new Acer aspire 1703 SM laptop from work. Windows XP on it. Since I use Zend studio client and server for PHP development, I decided to give Windows a try for a development environment.

But I am not satisfied, since the shell sucks in windows (better in XP though) and secure systems are harder to setup (and come from the open source community :LOL:).

Conclusion...
If only every PC-game was available for Linux, my Internet bank supported mozilla, and people realised IE isn't very good so I wouldn't have to test my work on it, I would leave Windows for good, and I would not want to support people having trouble with it either.

One more thing though for all you guys afraid of email viruses using windows. Use some flavour of http://www.mozilla.org mail instead. That'll get you away from most such threats. Unless you're not careful enough and doubleclick those .exe attachments. Don't...

Learning Linux makes Windows more and more of a PAIN. Even though I knew it before Linux and has always been there... (well... not always.)
And YES! I have experience from windows servers as well. I don't do that anymore, because I don't want to use software that any day can become unsupported and I have to pay $20 000 to get a newer version. I don't like systems that can't do ssh hostname "grep googlebot /var/log/apache/accesslog"


AARGH!
I have contributed to (or made it into) one of those completely useless flame wars!
God forgive me!
twigletmac too...

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:31 pm
by McGruff
Large bottle of Mr Muscle posing oil: $10

Three tubes of super glue: $5

Result: priceless.

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:38 pm
by infolock
sweet thanks heavy :D

igoy, wasn't trying to break up the circle of trust there :) just trying to find a solution.

Thanks again heavy :D

lol mcgruff

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:06 pm
by Nay
Wonder if Mac is in the group hug :lol:

*finds*

-Nay