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Future of PHP

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:04 pm
by muralimohan001
Hi all,

What is the the Future of PHP? How useful it is to career??? Can we compare it with JSP??? Which is better for good career??

Regards,
Murali

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:51 pm
by zimmer
well it sure is a hell of a lot cheaper to learn than JSP :P

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:45 am
by twigletmac
Whether it's good for your career is going to depend on what else you know. Whether it's better for your career than JSP will depend on what the demand for those skills are where you live. Want to have options? Learn both.

Mac

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:00 am
by Nay
There's only 8 letters my dear friend,

H-E-R-E-D-O-C

;)

-Nay

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:57 pm
by infolock
the future of php ( in my opinion ) is largely dependant on how many small to large corporations incorporate php into their development. If these companies can start seeing how PHP benefits them both productivly and financially, you will see PHP take an even stronger hold on the web.

As businesses go to the net every single day and along with businesses looking for a cheap but productive way to do what they need, PHP tends to be the answer by far.

Overall cost is the main kicker. PHP is free #1, which makes it a no-brainer choice when it comes to budget. You can do anything in php that you can do in any other language as far as data goes. But when you get into the actual design and layout of pages, Java, CSS, and others are going to be more so your way to go..

Overall though, the future looks good. Being a PHP coder right now at this point may not get you the job you want, but mark my words my friend, in 2 years at least, you will see a drastic change in the employeement field making your efforts to learn the language be not at all in vain.

Consider this. If you go with Java right now and decide not to use PHP, then in 2 years time when PHP does take a firm and complete hold of how data is managed on the net, where are you going to be? Right back at step one trying to learn the language. It's gonna take you a few months of development to learn the language first of all, and then you are gonna be at a loss trying to catch up with the rest of us.

However, if you start now and learn the language as best that you can, then you will find yourself in a very profitable position.

What I'm trying to say is this: given php's possiblities, the continuing development of PHP, and the ease of use of PHP, it suprises me more companies haven't already reliazed php's potential for their business. However, it WILL happen. I for one will be glad that I took a chance at learning this language. Not only has it strengthened my coding ability, but it also has taught me valuable methods in the maintaining of a website, and it's security, and working with code to strengthen both. And what's more, I'm sure everyone who has ever used the language and coded in it feels the same (if not more so..).

So, it's a 50-50 chance. Maybe php won't become more than it is right now, but you have higher probability of it becoming much, MUCH more.

but that's just me ;)

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:00 pm
by m3mn0n
Well said.

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:23 pm
by timhortons
Yes, that was well said.

In my opinion, PHP has a strong foot hold, and I dont know why it's not used more widely. However, I think that it may be one of those types of things where "everybodys" an expert, and the market for it could become crowded, but you never know, if the demand for scripters stays high for PHP then things should be alright.

I see PHP as a great tool for business's and individuals that arent willing to devote a large amount of money to other technologies like ASP. PHP offers a wider range of support, as in the fact that it can run on Windows based boxes, as well as Linux or Unix based boxes.

I think it's got a large community devoted to seeing it progress and they put in a lot of their time ensuring it stays simple, effiecient, and competitive. Ones thing is certain, it's not too hard for most people to learn, and it's not a bad thing to learn even if you dont use it in work or whatever. Within reasonable limits, it won't die anytime soon either.

On the Java forums, they often discussed the future of Java, and it's a reasonable question to ask, people want to make sure their time and effort is put to use in learning something new, and you know, often the case is, if your into the programming world, then you will probably be forced to learn a slew of programming languages anyways.

Hope I made sense in some way :wink: :D

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:03 pm
by infolock
However, I think that it may be one of those types of things where "everybodys" an expert, and the market for it could become crowded, but you never know, if the demand for scripters stays high for PHP then things should be alright.
true yet false at the same time. the problem lies within that this is true for all languages ;) Once you learn the basic structures of a language, you can then use those same methods with any language..

the thing is, programmers migrate to whatever language makes them the most money. First it was everyone was a basic programmer, then a fortrane, then a c++/visual basic, then delphi, then asp, and now php..

while some will claim to know what they are doing, they do that so that they can get the job and learn as they go.. but they never last. so i don't think you'll have to worry about the job market as if you know your stuff, then you have a great opportunity to gain a position. I'm not knocking ya, just clearing up.

as far as the os', yeah, those are supported, along with mac ( can't forget the mac users hehe ).

but the only thing that makes me believe Java won't last is the overall expenses. Business spend thousands of dollars on licences, and why? java can't do anything that php can't ( save applets ), but as far as data management goes, php is more superior. Not only because of it's easy-to-learn structure, but because of it's flexability.