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is html a programming language?

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:47 pm
by tecton
hmmm

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:59 pm
by uberpolak
No. It's somewhere between using MS Word and actual programming.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:35 pm
by qads
voted for no :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:47 pm
by Dr Evil
It's called Hypertext Markup Language.
Basically a language to Markup.
MARKUP: [n] detailed stylistic instructions for typesetting something that is to be printed; manual markup is usually written on the copy (e.g. underlining words that are to be set in italics)
So basically a language for layout. No scripting, no parsing or compiling ... so no programming!

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:28 pm
by Cruzado_Mainfrm
not at all dude, html is like writing in wordpad in rich text format :D
no programmin there

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:59 pm
by mahara
It's true that it is used to layout page. However, there's a structure in it, like one you found in programming language. For me, I prefer to say it as a programming language.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:30 am
by Michael 01
absolutely not. If there is one thing that really bothers me lately, its when people ask me what I do, and I tell them (besides my real job) that I do web design programming with php and databases, as well as graphic development, they always say "Yea, I program to." Of course, the statement leaves room for discussion, so I start rambling off twenty programming languages and they say "no..no...I do websites..you know...HTML....."

Oh...ok...and than of course the lecture leans towards how they can "hack" websites and really fondle their computer with these outrageous programs that sweep it for viruses and adware...like they have this computer thing down pat buddy....

In short, comparing HTML as a programming language within any realm of C++,C+,A+,php,CGI,pearl,visual basic,Ruby,ColdFusion, etc...etc.. would be like comparing MS Paint with Adobe photoshop as graphic engineering.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:33 am
by Michael 01
qads wrote:voted for no :lol:
qads, I got to tell ya, nice site there man! Lovin the work/graphics and attention to detail.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:31 am
by Dr Evil
mahara wrote:It's true that it is used to layout page. However, there's a structure in it, like one you found in programming language. For me, I prefer to say it as a programming language.
Any layout must have structure or it is not layout!!
Have you ever programmed? Programming contains loops, conditions, variables...
HTML contains tags that say draw table, align right, write red and bold. This is layout not programming.
Correct HTML is a tricky job and I'm not belittling the work necessary to achieve good results. But if you tell people you're a programmer because you do HTML, professionals sure will laugh. I work with producers (HTML) and developers (asp/php) and these are two completely different jobs.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:43 am
by mahara
Dr Evil wrote: Any layout must have structure or it is not layout!!
Have you ever programmed? Programming contains loops, conditions, variables...
You might be right. I hope I can find references which states like that so this matter can be cleared. Thanks for your note for me.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:19 am
by twigletmac
When I was young and naive I thought HTML was programming (especially since everyone used to talk about 'programming HTML code'). I don't anymore because since then I have actually taught myself a few actual programming languages.

code != programming

Mac

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:36 am
by Etherguy
I would be interested to hear the spin the "Yes" people have on this.

HTML is no more a programming language then
my Dirt Devil is a Super Collider :D

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:38 am
by Nay
Oh my god! Mac used an assignment operator instead of a comparison operator :lol:.

Well, still HTML is no programming language. Nither is CSS I suppose though Javascript is to some extent. Tell me I'm wrong ;)...

-Nay

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:47 am
by Dr Evil
Of course Javascript is. It is simply client side.

Cheers !

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:57 am
by twigletmac
Nay wrote:Oh my god! Mac used an assignment operator instead of a comparison operator :lol:.
http://php.net/manual/en/language.opera ... gnment.php
http://php.net/manual/en/language.opera ... arison.php

:P

Mac