Kudos to I Love Toast
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:29 pm
I Love Toast -- You're rapidly developing a reputation with me as a guru, man.
You wrote:
As a newbie coder, I'm still learning the php language, still have a way to go on Javascript, and finally am starting to get to the point where I can code HTML without the manual right in front of me. I'm not the world's quickest study, but I am convinced that fancy IDE's and elegant design, valuable as they may be, are not a substitute for coding rigor.
I like your hard-core attitude towards that -- not to mention the effort you're putting into this forum. It inspires me to make the effort to learn.
(Not to disparage the other regulars here -- you're all helpful, and I'm enjoying the responses. But that statement above from I Love Toast is the most succinct manifesto for programming excellence I've seen. )
You wrote:
You spaketh the truth. After cutting my teeth on Mozilla Composer, then wondering why things weren't editing easily, I've recently come to see the light.I believe that WYSIWYGI editors of HTML and/or CSS pages are crutches that unintentionally prevent the transformation of intermediate web site coders into advanced or professional web site coders.
I believe that by definition an advanced or professional web site coder is a coder, who among other things, is able to speak and write HTML and/or CSS as fluently as their native language.
To that end, I believe that at some point the journeyman web site coder must cast aside the crutches, aides, and WYSIWYGI coding tools. They must embark into the world of text editors such as BBEdit, Notepad, vi, and others. They may only return to the world of WYSIWGI coding tools when they have established through months of sweat and toil that they don't need them. In that end, they will realize the folly of their dependence on those tools. And in that realization they will abandon them again, returning to the purity of the text editor. So spaketh the great and wonderous cinnamon toast.
As a newbie coder, I'm still learning the php language, still have a way to go on Javascript, and finally am starting to get to the point where I can code HTML without the manual right in front of me. I'm not the world's quickest study, but I am convinced that fancy IDE's and elegant design, valuable as they may be, are not a substitute for coding rigor.
I like your hard-core attitude towards that -- not to mention the effort you're putting into this forum. It inspires me to make the effort to learn.
(Not to disparage the other regulars here -- you're all helpful, and I'm enjoying the responses. But that statement above from I Love Toast is the most succinct manifesto for programming excellence I've seen. )