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AAAARGHHHHH!!!! Netscape and IE. Why so different???
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:37 pm
by Chris Corbyn
Is it just me or does everyone find it a pain the arse getting all your table dimensions to work to your liking in IE and then finding it's all screwed up in NS?
Then you finally get it working in NS and when you reload it in IE it's all messed up with IE.
It's just percentages for dimensions are hadled differently I'm sure but it's so annoying setting all your DIV sizes and TD sizes in pixels.
I'm just busy pulling my hair out now. I should have just used pixels right the way through to start with

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:52 pm
by JAM
And even then, px is not the (tm) way, as it then depends on the users screen resolution... =/
I bet a great deal of people will come forward and give you ideas, but there are alot of how-to's (also called hacks) on this matter to be found using Google or similiar.
http://www.glish.com/css/hacks.asp is just one of them... See example in paragraph 4, using width: 200/180.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:45 am
by 1veedo
Just use firefox for everything. You do realize that IE logs everything you do. Every cookie you ever had ,every site etc, even after you clear it all.
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:34 pm
by d3ad1ysp0rk
1veedo wrote:Just use firefox for everything. You do realize that IE logs everything you do. Every cookie you ever had ,every site etc, even after you clear it all.
- uhh.. he was talking about developing.
- where did you get this information?
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:45 pm
by Bill H
..but it's so annoying setting all your DIV sizes and TD sizes in pixels.
Actually, once you get used to it it's not a big deal at all. I've been doing it so long I don't even think about it any more. The payoff is a nice consistent appearance in your website.
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:09 pm
by no_memories
nods in agreement with Bill.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:29 pm
by jason
Why would anyone developer for IE first, and then try it out in a Gecko based browser? We do all realize that Chances are if it's working in IE, and not working in Gecko, you are doing something wrong, right?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:53 pm
by liljester
i do all my dev in IE, then tweak to work in mozilla. i use IE because all the stats ive seen on internet browsing shows that IE is by far the most used browser. I realize that IE doesnt follow the w3c spec as closely as mozilla... but quite simply, more people use IE.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:16 pm
by Draco_03
an advice devlope under mozilla THEN tweak for IE..
you'll save A LOT of work
..
trust me
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:21 am
by malcolmboston
liljester wrote:i do all my dev in IE, then tweak to work in mozilla. i use IE because all the stats ive seen on internet browsing shows that IE is by far the most used browser. I realize that IE doesnt follow the w3c spec as closely as mozilla... but quite simply, more people use IE.
could'nt agree more
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:18 am
by Roja
liljester wrote:i do all my dev in IE, then tweak to work in mozilla. i use IE because all the stats ive seen on internet browsing shows that IE is by far the most used browser. I realize that IE doesnt follow the w3c spec as closely as mozilla... but quite simply, more people use IE.
You are going about things backwards, for a good reason, but with the wrong effect.
The goal is to produce a website that is standards compliant, and that works in IE.
Start by making a site that is standards-compliant. If it is, there is an excellent chance it will look 'fine' in Mozilla. Once you have it working there, THEN you can modify that code to work around the small issues in IE.
When you start with non-standard code to please IE, and then modify that code to work on Mozilla, you will find that the changes will ALSO cause problems with IE.
In my experience, you will go back and forth a lot less if you start with standards-based (mozilla) , and add exceptions (IE).
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:30 am
by magicrobotmonkey
here we go again...
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:40 am
by Roja
magicrobotmonkey wrote:here we go again...
Yes, this does smell suspiciously familiar..
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:55 am
by Draco_03
But I don't get it ..
ppl that are dev for IE first complain but then THEY TRY to make us believe (us ppl that devlop on good browser) that they are right..
Well... let me say it clearly
your wrong...

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:51 pm
by feyd
unless you've been doing this long enough to have very little tweeking for either browser once you are done designing for the first one.