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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 6:45 pm
by gotDNS
maybe 2 weeks....i had a lot of help from my brothers....

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 8:37 am
by DynamiteHost
I've been php coding for a month or 2 now....

I learnt at: http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learnin ... index.html

:)

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 5:05 am
by aaronhall
what i did was thought up a project i wanted to do that required PHP. I bought a good book, read chapters covering the basics, and then used it as a reference from that point on. i've never read through an entire manual or book on programming. so however long i have been programming is how long it has taken me to learn - eventually you have to tackle more challenging projects as you get more experience. :)

-aaron

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 1:06 pm
by lc
I think I first got started with php in errr april 2002... and that cause I found no GB that looked and worked like I wanted.

But I'm not from a coding background at all, so I basicly had to learn all... and still don't know half of what most people in here do. Then again I think since about a month I feel comfy knowing that I can create anything that I require. Maybe not with the cleanest code, but I can make it work.

And because of php I am now considering really going for C++... I just got my first compiler, but haven't done much with it yet.

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 10:57 pm
by m3mn0n
DynamiteHost wrote:I've been php coding for a month or 2 now....

I learnt at: http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learnin ... index.html

:)
whoa! a porn site that includes a learning center?!?

i have an excuse to visit there now ;) lol~

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:25 am
by phpPete
This may sound odd, but in programming, learning to know what I didn't know was key. In that I mean, i had NO idea what could or could not be done in ANY language...i was a complete newbie.

PHP is what got me interested in programming but I got frustrated because i lacked the fundmentals of programming. i needed to know what was and was not programmable. So I went back to school. I learned RPG4( a language I hope i never use again!! ) on an AS-400 first,then VB, JAVA ( I love JAVA ), then the Web languages: XML, ASP, JavaScript, VB_Script.

Each language came quicker and quicker...so that after a time it's more about the syntax.

Every language has constants, loops, conditionals etc...

I learn something new about PHP every-day.

But what I really try to excercise are my problem solving skills. It's taken some time and a lot of code writing to get to a point where a solution to a problem is more apparent than before...and occasionally even obvious.

For new programmers, in any language, i can't emphasize enough the importance of pseudo code and developing a algorithm at first..even if it's just a quick sketch:
Do this..then this - then this - yadda yadda yadda...

As i become more proficient I'm looking for "better" solutions...that's really what I need to concentrate on now.

Finally...whan your code bombs and the PHP interpreter throws all kinds of errors, don't freak out..it's a help to have the interpreter tell you where you goofed. My mantra learning JAVA was " the compiler is your friend "...

Can you imagine trying to develop without the interpreter telling you that you had goofed?

One final tip: when looking at someone elses code and it makes no sense at first...i literally talk out loud to myself what each line of code does.

"Assign this value to X. declare an array..." it slows me down and forces me to take my time and break things down to small chunks.


Just my 2 cents!





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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:54 am
by phice
sam wrote:I was born a PHP prodigy... errr. no but I was coding a lot in C++/Java and I thought I'd give PHP a try... the hardest part to get the hang of was mysql syntax, and I will contine learning that until the day I die.

Cheers Sam

I thought the MySQL syntax was the easiest to learn...? 8O

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:56 am
by phice
At first I was trying to learn ASP... But the book i just happened to buy didn't work with me all that well. And I had bought a PHP book, that someone recomended... Within 3 days, I was learning functions, arrays, etc. It's so fun... Now I've got to learn the key of good layouts. ;\

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:48 am
by JPlush76
ahh I used to be an RPG/as/400 programmer also

there are soooo many fricken jobs open for RPG programmers but its the last thing I'd want to do again :(

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:51 am
by HUWUWA
Two Days thanks to this forum, but I know C(++) like the back of my hand so I think that made it ten times easier to learn.

I'm not that good at server/Internet stuff and that gets me confused but the PHP code itself is pretty easy to use.

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:54 am
by llimllib
JPlush: I just googled up some RPG code, and I see why you don't want to do that again. makes COBOL look pretty :)

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:56 am
by phpPete
there are soooo many fricken jobs open for RPG programmers
They're all retiring!

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:03 am
by JPlush76
yea its no fun at all, its all on a green screen so its like you're working on a mainframe all day.

plus every major program is like 3000+ lines of code :(

thank god it has a debugger

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:19 am
by enygma
man, i feel old....i've been doing this stuff for about 5 years now.
Geez, has it really been that long?
I'm gonna go lie down, or get some Depends or something.... (heh)
:D

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:23 am
by llimllib
I recommend some Oops, I Crapped My Pants.