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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:29 am
by redmonkey
Like the color Tim,
Interesting 1/4 mile times,but,
I think I could beat that
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:34 am
by tim
you 'think?' lol red, my car is nothing compared to a c. rocket. I like that redmonkey stick you have on there. Rest assured I wouldnt waste my gas w/ you.
We fellas know what we can/cant do, and that falls into the I definately cant lol.
Very nice bike, i like the yellow color

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:53 am
by Grim...
tim wrote:my opinion is any car you wish to drive on the street shouldnt be handled on the track
Why on earth not?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:58 am
by Grim...
I can get 13 dead on the 1/4 mile, but I'd rather be going around corners

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:59 am
by feyd
a car tuned for the track, generally, isn't a nice car to drive on the road. The suspension is far stiffer, the rear differential may be locked, the gear timings are probably very short on the low end. The amount of turn the wheels can do may be significantly less than a "normal" car.
I'm not saying it can't be done. It depends on how far you go into the mix of a track car and a street car. And how far you are willing to retune it when leaving/entering the track environment. (or if you have the skills to drive such a car on the street.)
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:13 am
by Grim...
Fortunatly 3000's come with a magic button that adjusts the suspension for you
But that's taking a track car onto the road, not taking a road car onto a track (if you follow me).
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:28 am
by feyd
3000GT's are more built for both, since they are rear drive (that I remember), already nicely powered, can be easily tuned up for very nice power thanks to the diamond group.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:29 am
by tim
as feyd said, my camaro is somehting I wish to drive in town.
to get to town is a lil highway driving, so high gears ratios and a big stall converter is out of the question, unless u want tickets and a huge bill for gas. You can find a balance for the two, a decent street car and a decent track car, but to get the best for one or the other, you can only focus on one. and i want people to see my car in the town, i want to pick my friends up n cruise, etc.
my .02.
and when my brother had it, not built it ran low 15's. Stock, so i'm not one for that, rather hve the looks and the power is for sure there. Been in alot of cars. My friend has a Ford supercoupe, supercharged. Extremely fast and i can go w/ him, beat him as well. So just knowing that alone makes me happy.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:46 am
by Grim...
feyd wrote:3000GT's ... are rear drive (that I remember)
4wd. 4x4x4, actually
I agree that a pure street car could never be a track car, but I think it can work well the other way around (especially with 6 gears and adjustable suspension), as long as you're not running slicks, natch.
I got a Rover 827 in case I need to drive a long way / carry more than one passenger

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:47 am
by Grim...
By the way, what's a stall converter?
I've never heard of them (but we might use a different name in the UK).
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:57 am
by tim
a stall is for an automatic transmissions, it enables you to rev-up to a certain RPM (a higher stall would mean a higher rpm) before the car engages n moves.
Bad for a town with alot of stop lights, excellent for the track when u want to keep the rpms high at launch.
A trans-break would be better, but not everyone can afford such.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:59 am
by feyd
a high performance clutch can generally substitute, if you have the skills to double-clutch/heal-toe quickly..

... for manuals.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:04 am
by Grim...
I never even considered it might be an automatic.
Here in the UK, auto-boxes are considered very race-unfriendly.
If you were going to turn an automatic car into a race car (or even a semi-fast street car), the first thing you'd do is take the auto box out and replace it with a manual one

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:08 am
by tim
not really
Our local machine shop has a race car, he would never want a manual in that.
autos can be programmed to shift at certains points (ON ITS OWN) that would reduce driver flaws, autos can be built to hold any amount of power
look at the raptor 700r-4. they even have OD
A bigger servo alone would make a auto come to life. a few easy installs u can do w/o breaking open the shell can make them come to life n smoke anything with a manual with equal engine performance.
So i disagree.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:09 am
by feyd
I wish I could post stuffs about my current car project, but there's nothing to say yet really other than twin Lexus IS300/Toyota Altezza's..

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