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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:11 am
by Grim...
Servo?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:11 am
by tim
lol feyd, from what u said about your project, you will be on the "definately not worth the gas" category. get smoked before I can get out of first gear lol
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:13 am
by Grim...
As for the autobox / manual box debate, most 'very fast' cars have manual or semi-automatic boxes - the McLaren F1, XJ220, rally cars, Formula one cars, I believe that stock cars have them also.
I guess it depends on whether you want to actually drive the car or just steer it

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:14 am
by tim
Grim... wrote:Servo?
You must now know alot about automatics performace upgrades.
Google for "Vette servo" if you want to know more about them. They allow for stiffer shifts and more fliud flow.
/ edit - and for you to bash on race-related cars with automatics is wrong for the simple fact you havent the clue what a servo is, therefore rendering you clueless to what performance an built automatic can dish out. So end your "debate" there.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:24 am
by feyd
Grim... wrote:As for the autobox / manual box debate, most 'very fast' cars have manual or semi-automatic boxes - the McLaren F1, XJ220, rally cars, Formula one cars, I believe that stock cars have them also.
I guess it depends on whether you want to actually drive the car or just steer it

a giant chunk of the time, the gearing for the auto is quite different from the manual. This can be do to some of the mechanical things inside an auto, but can also be for ride feel for the end-user. Often a manual is for a control-freak or a person that likes the feeling of speed, and on the flip-side, auto's are more for the person you likes the experience of driving in a calm-ish car.
But it is possible to have an all automatic race car. For instance, nitro-cars are all auto. 99.999% of the reason is they would shift so fast through the gears a person couldn't throw it.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:32 am
by Grim...
tim wrote:and for you to bash on race-related cars with automatics is wrong for the simple fact you havent the clue what a servo is, therefore rendering you clueless to what performance an built automatic can dish out.
What I know about automatics has nothing to do with the fact that the people designing the fastest cars in the world put manual boxes in them.
Touchy about your cars, aren't you?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:37 am
by feyd
I'm all for either, as long as the shift is a short throw, and the gears are at decent ratios...
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:38 am
by Grim...
Feyd - nitro cars are radio-controlled, yes?
I agree there, the little things speed up so fast that having a manual box would be a joke.
Plus the fact that you might not be close enough to the car to know when to shift, and having a remote gearchange ability would be pretty complicated.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:41 am
by Grim...
feyd wrote:I'm all for either, as long as the shift is a short throw, and the gears are at decent ratios...
I couldn't live without my engine-braking (although I'm sure I'd get used to it after a while).
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:46 am
by feyd
uhm.. no I'm talking:

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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:56 am
by Grim...
We call them 'dragsters'.
This is defiantly a language barrier

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:57 am
by feyd
the top one is a Nitro/Alcohol Funny Car. the bottom is a Nitro/Alcohol Dragster.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:07 am
by Grim...
Yeah, I live about 10 miles from Santa Pod, which is the best drag strip in the UK.
I got a ride in a two-seater funny car once - it was like being shot out of a cannon
It had a manual clutch and two 'manual' gears, forward and backward. The forward gear was split into three (or maybe four) automatic gears.
I think a good chunk of the reason for the auto box is because once that things moving, you can't move your arms forward to reach the stick

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:08 am
by redmonkey
Grim... wrote:
We call them 'dragsters'.
No we don't. I am in the UK and while the term 'drag racing' is used as a generic umbrella term for the various racing categories, and I supose 'dragster' may be used as a generic term for the various types of cars, if you knew anything about drag racing you would not be reffering to these vehicles as 'dragsters' in the generic sense.
Next you'll be telling me all computers are PCs.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:12 am
by Grim...
Do we call them 'nitro cars'?