We call a 'spade' a 'spade' and a 'nitro car' a 'nitro car'Grim... wrote:Do we call them 'nitro cars'?
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Assumption is a dangerous thing and that is where problems start, and that is also the reason you fighting a loosing battle in this thread.Grim... wrote: I just assumed that when Feyd said 'nitro cars' he meant RC cars.
Many people in the UK and mainland Europe automatically assume that because it has an auto box it will be slow. That, quite simply is not always the case.
That's been my point from the beginning, that here in the UK we are far more likely to use a manual box in our perfomance cars.redmonkey wrote:Many people in the UK and mainland Europe automatically assume that because it has an auto box it will be slow.
I am well aware that you can get fast automatics, I just think that a manual gearbox is better suited to racing / performance cars.
As for assumption being dangerous, I did check out 'nitro cars' on google first, and I think you'll find it agrees with me.
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true, for some reason google brings back RC cars for '[google]nitro cars[/google]'. Although I've never heard of such a use for nitro fuel, as it seems kinda a waste (respectively) to me, a person who loves that feeling of acceleration and speed.
Then again, you've probably never heard of a street legal car that runs off [google]Toluene[/google](specifically this) either.. but I'm working on it.
Then again, you've probably never heard of a street legal car that runs off [google]Toluene[/google](specifically this) either.. but I'm working on it.
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Tim - seriously, my main point is that cars in the UK have a lot of differences to cars in America.
For starters, most UK cars are manuals, where as most American cars (so I'm told) are automatics. Suspension on American cars seems very soft when compared to cars in the UK. We don't get the cool pickups that you have with the massive engines.
We don't know what an SUV is.
And, most annoying of all, you get Dodge Vipers, and we don't
For starters, most UK cars are manuals, where as most American cars (so I'm told) are automatics. Suspension on American cars seems very soft when compared to cars in the UK. We don't get the cool pickups that you have with the massive engines.
We don't know what an SUV is.
And, most annoying of all, you get Dodge Vipers, and we don't
lol grim, it doesnt even matter to me. Here a manual is actually really, really cheaper than a car with a auto. It doesn't matter, aslong as your happy with your manual, and i with my auto. thats all that matters

btw - my truck has a manual in it, i'm looking to buy a new car that I attend to have a manual in it. So its not that I dislike them, just letting you know that autos can be used for the "race-ready seak n destroy all" person. street or not.
End of debate!!

btw - my truck has a manual in it, i'm looking to buy a new car that I attend to have a manual in it. So its not that I dislike them, just letting you know that autos can be used for the "race-ready seak n destroy all" person. street or not.
End of debate!!
What about the Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, a road going nutter available in automatic only (or it was when it was launched) and stupidly quick and fast.
I have no real interest in cars but, I do like this one.
I have no real interest in cars but, I do like this one.
There are some automatic bikes out there however, due to the fact that it doesn't take too much to upset the handling of a bike and throw you off you won't see many unless it is straight line racing.
With a bike you really need to be in tune with it to drive it fast, which means knowing exactly what is going on. The problem with an auto box on a bike is you would never know exactly what it's doing and when it's about to change.
Getting max throttle down coming out of a corner requires a lot of concentration and clutch work in order to feed the power in without the backend letting go but getting enough power down to keep the guy behind you there. Therefore I don't think you would be likely to see an automatic box on your average sports orientated bike.
That being said, there are scooters and tourers readily available with auto boxes.
With a bike you really need to be in tune with it to drive it fast, which means knowing exactly what is going on. The problem with an auto box on a bike is you would never know exactly what it's doing and when it's about to change.
Getting max throttle down coming out of a corner requires a lot of concentration and clutch work in order to feed the power in without the backend letting go but getting enough power down to keep the guy behind you there. Therefore I don't think you would be likely to see an automatic box on your average sports orientated bike.
That being said, there are scooters and tourers readily available with auto boxes.