I'VE JUST ABOUT HAD IT!!!!!!!!
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It doesn't compare. It's a pure IDE with the best text-editor I've seen, code-folding, very beautiful(!) syntax highlighting for pretty much any language out there, CVS, macros - in short: highly customisable based on open standards. Macros, for example, are saved as Javascriptlets. It runs on Windows, Linux - even Solaris!snpo123 wrote:How much better than dwmx would you say it is (as in, is WYSIWYG really WYSIWYG, does it crash often, bugs, erros, ect)?patrikG wrote:I'd recommend komodo: http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/
Ha, so I see dreamweaver has made more people than me mad.Anyone else have any suggestions?
I haven't had it crash on me, no real bugs - if Komodo was a woman, I'd definitely find out more about her.
I used to work with Homesite for years, then switched to Zend which I really liked, but took up too much resources and slowed everything down - and am with Komodo now. Very fast, smooth and powerful.
A WYSIWYG editor for PHP is the wrong tool. You can't "visually" output PHP. A texteditor is the weapon of choice.
Damnit!patrikG wrote:I used to work with Homesite for years, then switched to Zend which I really liked, but took up too much resources and slowed everything down - and am with Komodo now. Very fast, smooth and powerful.
I've just switched to Zend on your advice and now you're using something else?
Grr...
Yeah, Zend is a very good product, but my machine was too slow for it. I don't know any programmer who isn't missing something or is unhappy about their editor - they are constantly keeping their eyes open for other products.
But hey, download Komodo - they have a free trial, and see if you like it. For the moment I feel like I've arrived
But hey, download Komodo - they have a free trial, and see if you like it. For the moment I feel like I've arrived
Re: I'VE JUST ABOUT HAD IT!!!!!!!!
Hmmmmm.....snpo123 wrote:Or tell me if I'm just not using dreamweaver right.
I don't know what you are doing, but i love dreamweaver.
I have been using it since the first version and will never switch to anything else. I love it!
And as for Dreamweaver screwing up code, that is none-sense. I have beenusing dreamweaver for years now and it never screws up my code.
As for it crashing all the time and being buggy. Are these bought version you are using? There was a warez release which was terrible, it even put me off until i bought the full version.
Mark
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malcolmboston
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i agree with mark
i personally have been using dreamweaver since 1.2 and won't use anything else now, others are just pretenders such as frontpage etc
Dreamweaver doesnt screw with your code at all, thats a myth in my personal opinion, also it saves a huge amount of time
i havent got mx 2004 because from what i here, its mainly aimed at CSS, and seeing as i write that out in editpad, i dont really want to fork at another small fortune for it.
just thought i would add, i have never had dreamweaver do this to me, and i have done some very complex layouts with it, and when i click, check my code, it always says no problems found.
Maybe its just me i don't know, notepad sucks, how anyone uses that is a joke, its not clever being able to code in notepad, anyone can code HTML, try DHTML in notepad, that can prove tricky.
What im saying is alot of people say "DW sux, Notepad where its at", imho this is for people who think its "cool" to not use a WYSIWYG editor and code in notepad and want to show off a bit, this is 2004, theres absolutely no reason to not use one
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i personally have been using dreamweaver since 1.2 and won't use anything else now, others are just pretenders such as frontpage etc
Dreamweaver doesnt screw with your code at all, thats a myth in my personal opinion, also it saves a huge amount of time
i havent got mx 2004 because from what i here, its mainly aimed at CSS, and seeing as i write that out in editpad, i dont really want to fork at another small fortune for it.
just thought i would add, i have never had dreamweaver do this to me, and i have done some very complex layouts with it, and when i click, check my code, it always says no problems found.
Maybe its just me i don't know, notepad sucks, how anyone uses that is a joke, its not clever being able to code in notepad, anyone can code HTML, try DHTML in notepad, that can prove tricky.
What im saying is alot of people say "DW sux, Notepad where its at", imho this is for people who think its "cool" to not use a WYSIWYG editor and code in notepad and want to show off a bit, this is 2004, theres absolutely no reason to not use one
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Dreamweaver produces web-pages. If you need to quickly do that: great, it's a very good tool. For programming, however, it's not very suited. Yes, there is phakt, the Dreamweaver PHP plugin, but you are lacking things like code-folding, CVS, error-highlighting, function and variable definition prompting etc. etc. And what if you need other programming languages?malcomboston wrote:What im saying is alot of people say "DW sux, Notepad where its at", imho this is for people who think its "cool" to not use a WYSIWYG editor and code in notepad and want to show off a bit, this is 2004, theres absolutely no reason to not use one
"Dreamweaver vs. Notepad" is not a serious discussion - try out some text-editors (e.g. Komodo) and see where they are at. This is indeed 2004 and Dreamweaver does its thing nicely, but is, per se, not a programming tool in my book. I've worked with Dreamweaver and found it very cumbersome. Try Komodo - you'll see the difference.
Zend seems pretty good if you are purely developing PHP as it is an IDE specific to PHP. I do find it very resource hungry though and there are various little touches that I feel are missing.
I had alot of problems (stability wise) with Komodo many many moons ago, however, I have been trying out v2.5 and things certainly seem to be more stable. In terms of speed/performance I still find it quite slow though (but I'm still using it).
I had alot of problems (stability wise) with Komodo many many moons ago, however, I have been trying out v2.5 and things certainly seem to be more stable. In terms of speed/performance I still find it quite slow though (but I'm still using it).
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from what i was aware this topic was about design not programming, anyone who argues that dreamweaver is the ultimate PHP programming is wrong, try zendpatrikG wrote: Dreamweaver produces web-pages. If you need to quickly do that: great, it's a very good tool. For programming, however, it's not very suited.
i personally use
(Design (HTML)) Dreamweaver MX
(Programming (PHP)) Zend Development Studio