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[56K WARN Page 2+] This'll be POPULAR, come in and see !

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:44 am
by Calimero
Ok, here's the scenario:

I come from somewhat patriarchal country.
In my "environment" most of the programmers respond to male names.
And in recent post I noticed : "This $POSTER is a girl".


So, my question is based on that - just to see, statistically how many ladies decided to sit and type (ONLY WEB-RELATED PROGRAMMING). :)

In order not to disctiminate any gender, and no, I'm not a sexist, there will be no: I'm a girl and I'm a guy - because I know how that can turn out, THERE WILL BE A VOTE.

My brain worked hard (for 2 minutes) to figure out the best questionaire so all key aspects are covered with only yes (and default no), but these are the most important ones for this type of question.

If any comments on this type of question and public disscussion - do reply, because the PM storage could be potentially small if many_affected_users try to reply.

For those not so good with english (if you somehow undersand this):
FEMALE - girl, woman ...
MALE - boy, man, a guy ...
OTHER - well look in encyclopedia for non-humanoids, creatures, legends etc... :D

Hope to make this interesting, and not pinpointing.

And if not mentioned I be Male.
8)

See ya all.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:51 am
by patrikG
Lots of words to introduce a simple questionaire, if I may say so. So many disclaimers..., but hey, it's your poll.

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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:40 am
by Calimero
Well, yeah.

Sorry about the size of it.

But when I ask for your vote - i will explain you why you vote.

I'll edit the pool it self to make it easier to use.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:46 am
by patrikG
No worries, Calimero - my post above was a personal statement, not a mod-statement. I should have made that clear straightaway.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:05 am
by Breckenridge
I work with both male and female programmers and in my opinon a pro programmer is the one who works the hardest at getting the concepts / code that was never done before in our company done!!!

Don’t be deceived by the female softness, my wife who is a mechanical engineer / Programmer can be really a scary programmer when left alone behind a computer.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:21 am
by feyd
In my experience, female programmers are few and far between. Here in the US, it's just extremely rare to see a female programmer. There were 2 in my high school. Of a programming department size of around 200 students. And a school of about 1300 students.

The female programmers I've worked with in "the real" have all been just as proficient as the boys. Just a lot more rare. However, there are a couple game companies that have quite a few female coders. From what I've seen, science geek females are likely to go into engineering, biology, chemistry, pretty much anything but programming. Although that just seems like the pulse here. (Note: I've been a pro-programmer in several states: Washington, Texas, California... and looks soon to be Tennessee)

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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:56 pm
by Calimero
I don't say wimin are worse programmers than men,
the poll was started with curiosity to see the quantity, not to discriminate quality.

Don't get me wrong :D .


And at this discussion, what are your interests / passions, besides sitting in front of the screen and coding.

Me = lots of chalanges, testing your logic and other types of inteligence, Orienteering, cycling, runing..... and besides that I plan to make a software that can think emulate human being :D.

Just joking !

Keep it rolling and posting.

See ya!

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:09 pm
by feyd
I wasn't thinking it was a "quality" thing.. I just posted what I've seen in my years of programming.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:48 pm
by m3mn0n
Well for me I know a lot more female web designers (Photoshop and HTML addicts), and a lot more male web programmers (PHP, Perl, ASP, etc).

I don't know why this is so, but whatever I don't really care enough to sit down and really think about it. ;)

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:50 am
by Bill H
Nitpick of the day, Beginner is spelled with two n's.
Sorry, that was rude.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:58 am
by qads
never seen a female programmer in my life, but i do know a great designer, she makes some of the best designs i have seen.

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:12 am
by Calimero
Ok, sorry about the spelling,

My born/native language is very very different from english and western european languages.

:)

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:17 am
by Draco_03
Hey try to guess who's the only pro women here...

*cough*mac*cough*

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:36 am
by twigletmac
I can't be the only girl here... although saying that more seem to end up as web designers rather than developers.

I did know this girl at uni who was a phenomenol programmer, used PERL mostly. I think she did work in robotics/ai after she finished. Haven't met many others though.

Mac

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:14 am
by jason
Piera was big on programming, until she got into design. Now she is a Mac loving Adobe Illustrator fanatic.

Granted, I encouraged her (now she can go my designs for me!); I ended up helping her get her eMac, and just bought her a new 14" iBook.

As far as female programmers go, yeah, it's true, their are less of them. However, those that usually do get into it are really good. I don't know why that is (though I am sure their is some study/site out there that explains why this is). However, in the end, I can honestly say what matters the most to me is skill. I would rather hire someone who is better than me at programming, whether that person is male or female.

However, I know several good PHP programmers who are female (mostly through my hanging out in #php on freenode, which is where I met Piera, interestingly enough).