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if your serious about programming, its worth every penny, however you can get fre alternatives that do most of what zend can do, however, zend has the advantage of being built by zend, and therefore unrivalled features such as code profiler, breakpoints etc
its awesome and worth every penny, i wouldnt code without it
I have only been coding with Zend for a couple of months and am finding worth the investment. Yes, the company I work for paid for it but if I was to do freelancing work from home I would make the investment, heck I might anyway just to have a copy at home when I doing my personal stuff.
There are good free alternatives just search this board for editors and there is a big post on them.
Btw, just for the fact, know that Client and Server is separate, and profiling, debugging etc doesn't work without the server. (Not sure if they are sold seperately either)
But to the point, if you don't intend to buy the server, and has the php-manual buy your side, you can just as well run it as a free version, no trial but some things such as the manual is gone, no profiling etc of coarse.
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Any reasons AGAINST it (Seeing as I feel like I'm sold already)?
its a resource hogging, java-based application, but the benefits outway the cons imo.
if you have higher than 1.5ghz / 256 DDR you should be OK, it doesnt need anything like that spec, but experience has shown computers grind to a halt when working on large projects with multiple files open
On the cover, Zend looks pretty good and UI is neatly laid out - The real issues begins with the debugger as its difficult to integrate with existing setups, but the biggest issue for me is output is shown as raw HTML with out any option to show it properly rendered.
Personally I recommend Nusphere, its native, has a full advanced debugger/profiler and most important gives me the output I want to see.
If you want it rendered you have the webbrowser for that... which is where you debug etc too, the internal is just for being able to test solutions locally, which is quite good when you are not connected or at home.
Yes and I could also write code in Notepad but since IDE is an abbreviation for Integrated Development Enviroment, I shouldn't need to leave it to see the rendered results, I've worked with many IDE's and none of them suffer from this "oversight" -
Before anybody suggests its a Java limitation, no its not
Sorry to annoy any Zend fans out there, this is just my pet peeve with Zend Studio - while its a simple feature, its also very important and it bugs me that they've overlooked it for so long.
I wouldn't want to spend time viewing my rendered version in Zend when I'm only going to then go away and view it in FF, IE and Konqueror. But it's a matter of opionion I guess