Has Dreamweaver got any better..?

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Post by Todd_Z »

haha I agree patrik => I don't understand the ego boosting comment of "I'm hardcore because I use notepad to code" - No, you're not hardcore or in any way superior. You take longer to do what someone using an advanced IDE could do. I just don't get it.
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I used to always use Notepad, because it was there... But it had always been a pain in the ass, as sometimes it doesn't (actually... most of the time) recognize line breaks and puts ALL of the lines together in a big garbled mess.

I now use Crimson Editor... Nice program.
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notepad recognizes Windows line breaks, \r\n, but not Unix or Mac ones normally..
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Post by Grim... »

Textpad is nice, but we're getting off topic, there's a sticky about this...
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feyd wrote:notepad recognizes Windows line breaks, \r\n, but not Unix or Mac ones normally..
Or as I often phrase it, "Notepad only recognizes the non-standard line-breaks Microsoft uses". :>

I might be slightly biased.
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I still use dreamweaver from time to time, the features like the template system in it and live data make it quite useful, I just find it easier when working on a class or a bit of script to use something like crimson editor or php edit (http://www.waterproof.fr/), php edit in particular has some really cool features that make working with classes and functions really easy.
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Not to mention dreamweaver still has that issue with server side coding and those hidden characters.
Far to many times have I been going, wtf? headers already sent?
Bye bye Dreamweaver :lol:
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Post by Subfusion »

Todd_Z wrote:haha I agree patrik => I don't understand the ego boosting comment of "I'm hardcore because I use notepad to code" - No, you're not hardcore or in any way superior. You take longer to do what someone using an advanced IDE could do. I just don't get it.
I never said I was hardcore because I use Notepad...
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Post by Chris Corbyn »

Sounds like dreamweaver has got a lot better since I used it years ago but now I have two reasons not to use it.

1. I use linux
2. I want *complete* control over what gets put in my (X)HTML source... I want to meet standards and understand how I did it ;)

*Kinda off-topic sorry*
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Jcart wrote:Not to mention dreamweaver still has that issue with server side coding and those hidden characters.
Far to many times have I been going, wtf? headers already sent?
Bye bye Dreamweaver :lol:
Yup! I hate that. Not sure if it was fixed for MX 2004, but MX was so bad for that.
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Post by malcolmboston »

Dreamweaver for all design work
Zend Development Studio for all programming

Dreamweaver produces decent HTML, ive been using it for around 3 or 4 years now, starting with V3, i use it purely because it allows me to work faster which means quicker projects and faster income.

edit: Im now using MX Studio 2004 btw also, ihavent touched server-side coding in DW since MX, the code it produces is disgusting
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Post by McGruff »

At the moment I use Freehand/Photoshop for layout design then code it up by hand. However, a decent wysiwyg editor would save some time as long as the html is at least nearly right and not too hard to fix.
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Post by reverend_ink »

I have to say, my experience with Dreamweaver is a bit lack luster, a bit in version 2, very disappointing, and a little in MX. But it always seemed so bloated to me.

I prefer simple programs and have using PSPad for awhile.

It's great for exactly what I do, code in source.

If you aren't yet 100% comfortable with coding by hand, I would say Dreamweaver is perfect, but if you can code in notepad, why not use something lower cost, or better yet, open source?

But thats just my opinion.
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Post by John Cartwright »

Often enough I like to combine hand coding and html editors such as dreamweaver.. like I would slap down the table needed, and once I had an idea around the logic I would throw it in handcoding mode to fix up all the sloppy automated html.
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Agree

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Jcart wrote:Often enough I like to combine hand coding and html editors such as dreamweaver...
I Agree, but I have still not found some tool that I like which generates nice HTML.
Dreamweaver does seem a bit clumsy, and I couldn’t get it to do exactly what I wanted to.
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