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PHP Writer

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:11 pm
by moiseszaragoza
I have been Using Macromedia Dreamweaver to write my PHP dose someone knows better software for me to use?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:19 pm
by John Cartwright
viewtopic.php?t=6288

Moved to General Discussion

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:36 pm
by Skara
yes. notepad. anything is better than dreamweaver. How about trying to actually learn the code? eh? Just use a syntax-highlighting text editor. jEdit is nice, if slow.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:38 pm
by moiseszaragoza
Well dreamweaver's code sucs.

I usualy jusy type everything.
I was wandering to make my work go faster

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:42 pm
by Skara
If you want your work to go faster, get a program that has all sorts of nifty features in it. I don't remember the name of it (dammit), but this one guy I know had this free text editor that even had regex replacement.
The best thing you can do to make your work go faster is to just learn php more. Keep coding and you'll get better and faster.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:12 pm
by feyd
a lot of text editors have regex ;)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:56 pm
by pickle
I'm a recent fan of PSPad. I like it's FTP connectivity much better than Dreamweaver. It doesn't have automatic php function argument completion like Dreamweaver does, but that's not THAT big of a deal. If you're editing a class, it also has a pane to show you all the functions and object variables in the class. It's also much lighter weight than Dreamweaver.

Most importantly, it's free, so you don't have to be a criminal or rich to use it 8)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:01 am
by pilau
I'd suggest Vim or gVim for linux.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:09 am
by n00b Saibot
I won't suggest anything because we already have chockful of such threads with people suggesting this & that & whatnot. I would like say here that such thread should be locked after a limit is passed. Jcart already has pointed to a good resource so why post in vain?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:05 pm
by MathewByrne
I'm just going to say this one general comment for the benefit of someone who sounds new to code editing.

Find an editor that is simple and that you can get comfortable using. You don't usually need all the extra features that some of the freeware apps give you. Try to stick to the following list of features:

- Syntax highlighting - most will do this without any problems. If you can customise the colors then all the better.
- Folder/FTP Browsing - Especially for PHP development where often you wont have a local server set up, FTP is a gosend inside the app you're using. File browsing just makes editing more convienient.
- Multiple Documents - Having more than one doc in the same window. Tabbed browsing through them is also handy.
- Line Numbering and AutoIndent are both musts. You also want to really be able to customise the indentation to your particular style.

Apart from that, you don't really need anythign else. Autocompletion is sometimes good but I find that it often gets obtrusive when coding for long periods.

Vi is generally very uncomfortable to newer people that are used to notepad style text editing. I used PSPad for a while and found it to be bulked down with too many features which weren't that useful. I currently use jEdit, just for its flexibility and useful plugins. Many people dislike Java apps so it might not be your thing but hunt arround. Check out Wikipedia for a list of text editors that you might want to try.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:36 pm
by josh
Skara wrote: How about trying to actually learn the code?
erm, excuse me I code everything manually... in dreamweaver, explain to me how I don't know the code?
Skara wrote:If you want your work to go faster, get a program that has all sorts of nifty features in it.
like dreamweaver? (built in FTP, code collapse, syntax highlighting, auto html tag close, syntax popup windows for functions, indenting, etc..)
Skara wrote: I don't remember the name of it (dammit), but this one guy I know had this free text editor that even had regex replacement.
Dreamweaver has regex replacement.



I agree that it lacks in "design" view for editing html code, but don't all WYSIWYG editors?

I just thought I'd defend a perfectly usable program with some valid points

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:36 pm
by Christopher
I use Eclipse (with PHPEclipse) and like it. It is a pretty amazing IDE considering it is free. I understand that Zend will be supporting Eclipse in the future.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:36 am
by AKA Panama Jack
Dreamweaver is a fantastic layout tool for creating your HTML pages or templates. It does have support for PHP and other languages but it is primarily used for layout work.

If you want a great coding tool I use Homesite 5.5 for all of my coding work. It is small, fast and highly configurable. I have tried many others editors and they are either lacking in features or overwhelm you with things you will never use.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:18 am
by JayBird
Agree totally with jshpro2, what is ti with all the Dreamweaver bashers.

I have been in the web industry for 10 years now and have been using Dreawaver since version 2.

It is perfectly competent for any project i have to do (i am mainly a devloper). People tend to think that Dreamweaver is the tool if you want an app to write the code for you and drag and drop...totally not true.

If you know how to use it properly, it is brilliant.

And anyone that says "just use notepad" for the 1337-ness effect is just a fool!

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:39 am
by Chris Corbyn
n00b Saibot wrote:I won't suggest anything because we already have chockful of such threads with people suggesting this & that & whatnot. I would like say here that such thread should be locked after a limit is passed. Jcart already has pointed to a good resource so why post in vain?
Sorry to spoil your fun guys but we don't need another uber-long thread.

viewtopic.php?t=6288

I'll have to lock this for sanity's sake 8O