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hello everyone
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:23 am
by dj_maunish
iam new to devnet.
it has been a pleasure being with you all.
iam maunish from india
doing my m.sc.it from university of mumbai.
i have taken up a task of making a project management tool.
something like copperproject.com
but iam new to php,
i know mysql and html better.
so how do i go about.
plz,help me out.
iam in a deep mess.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:30 am
by hawleyjr
Welcome to DevNet!
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:34 am
by Chris Corbyn
Welcome!
If you ask specific questions in the appropraite forums you should find you get some good answers.
Have a read over the documentation (and tutorials) at
http://www.php.net/ before you get started

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:39 am
by Grim...
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:37 pm
by neophyte
Don't forget my personal favorite
http://www.hudzilla.org/php/
thanku
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:13 pm
by dj_maunish
thank u every1 for all the information
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:34 pm
by John Cartwright
For your own benefit, don't talk with aolbonics
You'll find you'll get much more/better responses when you talk properly

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:53 am
by n00b Saibot
Jcart wrote:For your own benefit, don't talk with aolbonics
yeah, don't repeat my history

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:01 am
by foobar
Jcart wrote:
You'll find you'll get much more/better responses when you talk properly

And respect. People who talk in 13375|°34|< other than for jokes get 0 respect from me.
I mean, is that what you write like when you write a letter to someone (oh wait, never mind...) or when you write an essay? Do you talk that way perhaps? No? Well then don't do it oh forums either. It's not like people are more tolerant to obfuscated writing just because it's the internet. It's just like having illegible handwriting. My handwriting is pretty ugly, but most of the time it's legible (at least by people who know me

).
</rant>
Anyhows, welcome to the forums, dj_maunish!
Actually, I shouldn't be welcoming people yet since I'm still a forum n00b myself, but my excuse is that I've spammed >450 times in that short time...
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:57 am
by m3mn0n
Welcome to the community.
I'd recommend picking up a basic PHP book to help get you started. There is many good tutorials online, but for a consistent and high quality learning approach to the wide variety of topics you'll need to know, I recommend a book over online tutorials.
Peachpit Press,
Wrox, and
O'Reilly have some great PHP Books.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:24 am
by foobar
Sami wrote:I'd recommend picking up a basic PHP book to help get you started. There is many good tutorials online, but for a consistent and high quality learning approach to the wide variety of topics you'll need to know, I recommend a book over online tutorials.
Actually, I learned PHP exclusively from web resources, and I think I know it pretty well. I've never touched a book on PHP. It may have been easier to start having read books on Java and having done a bit of Java programming in the past, but it _is_ possible to learn just from the internet. I wouldn't recommend it though, it'll probably be a lot more painful and daunting at the start. Books give you a something solid to fall back on.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:31 am
by m3mn0n
Oh yeah, I agree that it's possible and viable, but IMO, because of the high quality of writing found in books, and because you are being taught by the same person on a variety of topics, you can adapt to their style of teaching or the format of the book, and then pick up on things very quick.
I first did PHP learning via the web and asking a million questions and reading the manual, but what got me really going was just buying a $30 book and spending 15 or so hours reading and practicing with it. It covered all of the basics, and some advanced things like regex and creating a calendar and file manager.
You'd be hard-pressed to find such a quantity of learning online in such a consistent & integral form for free.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:39 am
by foobar
It depends on your learning style. I don't learn very well by reading, I much rather get the basics down with a good tutorial, and then proceed to creating some simple programs like Hello World and the like, while flipping through a good reference manual. For me personally, this has proven to be the fastest way to learn. Give me the basics and let me do the rest. I always have tons of ideas of what I could do once I understand the gist, and I quickly get bored with drawn out explanations of the theory. That's also true in other disciplines. Especially math. I learn best from a short, precise explanation and a full example of the principle. I hate having to read some prose drivel making it absolutely unintelligible what they're trying to tell me.
Anyway, that's just me.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:50 am
by m3mn0n
foobar wrote:I don't learn very well by reading, I much rather get the basics down with a good tutorial

You read in tutorials!
A book really is just an elaborate string of tutorials.
Sometimes tutorial > book and book > tutorial but from my experience about learning a wide array of basic topics, such as what he needs, book > tutorial and tutorials != learningefficiencyofabook
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:58 am
by foobar
Sami wrote:
You read in tutorials!
Shhh!! Don't tell anybody!
Sami wrote:
A book really is just an elaborate string of tutorials.
Liar.

Some books aren't, they get into this whole theorising about the nature of whatever their trying to explain to you instead of just serving the facts & definitions and getting it over with.
Sami wrote:
Sometimes tutorial > book and book > tutorial but from my experience about learning a wide array of basic topics, such as what he needs, book > tutorial and tutorials != learningefficiencyofabook
With me, it's the opposite. Tutorial > Doing stuff by myself > Reference book.