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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:52 pm
by Chris Corbyn
I can't verify if this is true since it was just a brief conversation.
When I worked for EDS I was informed by an ex-MS employee that Microsoft actually aren't that bothered about home users downloading versions of their software illegally. Why? Because more people are using it. And why does that matter? Because companies are practically forced into using MS products because it's what everyone know how to use.
MS make a lot of money from business licenses.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:55 pm
by feyd
okay... we're starting to get a decent ways off track now people.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:57 pm
by Burrito
100% windows and will stay that way until I can play the plethora of games that I play on another environment.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:01 pm
by John Cartwright
Burrito wrote:100% windows and will stay that way until I can play the plethora of games that I play on another environment.
Hopefully that won't be the case for that long.. that is also a big reason why I haved avoided switching to a non-Microsoft OS..
Wonder if there anything being worked on..

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:43 pm
by LiveFree
I am currently running XP Pro / Home on all my PCs and Laptops,
However I am looking to convert to *nix on my current laptop (the one i am writing on now),
I just dont know though :S
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:38 pm
by Chris Corbyn
Jcart wrote:Burrito wrote:100% windows and will stay that way until I can play the plethora of games that I play on another environment.
Hopefully that won't be the case for that long.. that is also a big reason why I haved avoided switching to a non-Microsoft OS..
Wonder if there anything being worked on..

Cedega. It's not that fast though since it's kinda emulated. I've never used it personally, but I'm not fussed about gaming in any case

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:13 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
Even if you require Windows, Linux is both free and capable of being setup as a dual boot system - which is so simple its not worth mentioning. You can run both on the same PC, just leave a GB or three for the Linux distro outside your NTFS partitions.
A nice tip to have in these cases, sometimes (rarely) when playing with various Linux installs on a dual boot system your master boot record (mbr) can become corrupted or deleted (this even happens just using Windows...

). The WindowsXP CD can be used to install the Windows MBR easily - don't why I mention it except its a simple fix rarely used (apparently).
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:39 am
by Chris Corbyn
Maugrim_The_Reaper wrote:Even if you require Windows, Linux is both free and capable of being setup as a dual boot system - which is so simple its not worth mentioning. You can run both on the same PC, just leave a GB or three for the Linux distro outside your NTFS partitions.
A nice tip to have in these cases, sometimes (rarely) when playing with various Linux installs on a dual boot system your master boot record (mbr) can become corrupted or deleted (this even happens just using Windows...

). The WindowsXP CD can be used to install the Windows MBR easily - don't why I mention it except its a simple fix rarely used (apparently).
Well, problem there would be that it works like fdisk /mbr and blindly sets itself up as windows xp.
Using a linux live CD you can simply boot up, mount you hard drive, chroot in and run grub --> setup. Done and using the bootloader which has all your other options.

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:58 am
by Maugrim_The_Reaper
You think a non-Linux user is capable of that

. Just pointing out a quick fix for Windows users trying Linux in case their install frazzles - happened a bit with FC4 I recall.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:24 pm
by timvw
Actually, does the OS really matter? Almost all cool apps have a *nix and a win32 port anyway

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:06 pm
by alvinphp
jayshields wrote:I'm on XP Pro. Hopefully gunna make the switch to Vista when it's released, providing there aren't a million bugs in it at launch. When I've got the new system running it should handle all this snazzy visual stuff from Vista quite well.
The reason why Vista has taken so long as someone in MS realized the windows code sucked donkey balls so they started over from scratch. Windows Vista will be the first MS OS that is completely new from the ground up. Saying that I put money that there will be a Service Pack the first month of its release.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:10 pm
by Roja
alvinphp wrote:The reason why Vista has taken so long as someone in MS realized the windows code sucked donkey balls so they started over from scratch. Windows Vista will be the first MS OS that is completely new from the ground up. Saying that I put money that there will be a Service Pack the first month of its release.
They did not in any way rewrite it from the ground up.
In fact, many portions of the OS are nearly identical to XP. The major changes have been in the kernel, the display system, networking, and the security model. Those, and a new theme, and you have Vista.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:09 am
by alvinphp
Roja wrote:alvinphp wrote:The reason why Vista has taken so long as someone in MS realized the windows code sucked donkey balls so they started over from scratch. Windows Vista will be the first MS OS that is completely new from the ground up. Saying that I put money that there will be a Service Pack the first month of its release.
They did not in any way rewrite it from the ground up.
In fact, many portions of the OS are nearly identical to XP. The major changes have been in the kernel, the display system, networking, and the security model. Those, and a new theme, and you have Vista.
Ok, i am wrong. There was an article I read a while back how they were going to rewrite much of what they did with Vista as there were just too many problems. My mistake.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:53 am
by Grim...
I use 99% Windows (I use Linux at work sometimes, but through Putty).
I run XP Pro SP2, XP Pro, XP MCE and Server 2003
