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Cool site for free web templates
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:56 pm
by RobertGonzalez
I just got done downloading a bunch of web site templates from
the Open Source Web Design web site. Thought I would share with those of you who may be like me... in need of a starting point and could use some CSS and design help to start.
They have a great collection of free site templates. Just wanted to pass it along.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:10 pm
by Roja
A while back, the site members forked into two sites - oswd, and the less well known
http://openwebdesign.org/ .
Just wanted to mention that you should check both out.

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:13 pm
by RobertGonzalez
HOLY COWLEDO!!! Ooh, more resources... I'm so excited. I have had such designer's block lately. Heck, for minute there I had even thought I had forgotten how to write HTML, let alone PHP.
Thanks for the tip Roja.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:18 pm
by Burrito
both of those look to be good resources for the day when I finally bite the bullet and decide to write a site with no tables
thanks gentlemen..
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:45 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Burrito wrote:both of those look to be good resources for the day when I finally bite the bullet and decide to write a site with no tables

I have a really hard time keeping my finger off the <table> or <tr> sequence. I am so used to it that I am forcing myself to developing a series of sites without tables just to get used to it. It is so freakin' hard. It's like I'm having table withdrawals or something...
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:48 pm
by Burrito
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I'm still not sold on the argument to NOT use them.
sure they weren't 'created' for design purpose, but they work and they're easy, until I hear something compelling to steer me away, I'm following the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' philosophy.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:01 pm
by RobertGonzalez
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I have had some experience with tabled layouts where, if the server is running slow, PHP won't finish outputting the page and dies after 30 second, in the middle of table construction. In my no-tables designs I have never had that problem happen. Not sure if it is the design or the server though. We'll see in a bit when I run a prodcution version of a tables-less design.

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:03 pm
by Burrito
keep me posted with what you find out.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:39 pm
by Roja
Burrito wrote:<offtopicish>
I'm still not sold on the argument to NOT use them.
sure they weren't 'created' for design purpose, but they work and they're easy, until I hear something compelling to steer me away, I'm following the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' philosophy.
</offtopicish>
Browse with only an older cellphone for just 8 hours, and you will never want for a table again.
EVER.
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:37 am
by matthijs
I'm still not sold on the argument to NOT use them
Personally I wouldn't even know how to build a site with tables. Really.
(I was so lucky the first "build my first homepage" book I bought was about web standards and css)