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Object databases

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:17 pm
by alex.barylski
So, as some of you may know I'm intensely looking into OR/M thanks to the suggestions of some peeps on here :P

My question now becomes, how long do you figure it takes the world (as far as hosting is concerned) to catch onto using databases like Cache: http://www.intersystems.com/cache/

Does this not solve the problem of relational -> object mapping directly???

I've have seen these guys advertisements numerous times (in PCWorld??, etc) for quite a while now and never realized what it was they were selling, but now I do...

How long before the rest of the world catches on? As far as hosting???

Should I even invest the time and effort into OR/Mapping or should I stick with AdoDB until my hosting company(s) switch to object databases???

Just a whats your timeframe, opinion type question...no need to get a intense about it thread ;)

Cheers :)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:22 pm
by feyd
I'd say it's not likely to catch anytime soon.

Re: Object databases

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:30 pm
by Roja
Hockey wrote:Should I even invest the time and effort into OR/Mapping or should I stick with AdoDB until my hosting company(s) switch to object databases???

Just a whats your timeframe, opinion type question...no need to get a intense about it thread ;)
The first question is significantly different from the second.

Whether you should invest the effort into OR/Mapping is entirely your call, and based on your needs, desires, and preferences. No one can (reasonably) answer that for you.

Now, the second question, whats *my* timeframe, is much easier. I have no plans to. The vast majority of my coding time is spent helping people who literally won't even upgrade to a secured (read: Up to date) version of PHP, MySQL, and the like. I still have people installing who can't get crontab working, so I certainly don't expect them to go looking for a host that offers OR/Mapping specialized databases.

Not to mention, the majority of the code I work on hasn't even made the transition from raw procedural code to function-driven, let alone object-oriented. Someday..

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:51 pm
by Gambler
How long before the rest of the world catches on? As far as hosting???
Hosters install things that are popular among users, and users learn things that are easily available from hosters. Any major change in this area takes a lot of time, unless some higher (marketing) force intervenes. So the best thing is to have your own server and install whatever you want.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:33 pm
by alex.barylski
Good enough...IMHO there is waaay to much legacy code out there for any hosts to even consider switching or upgrading to OO databases...

Maybe offering in addition too, but not outright dropping relational...

I see OO databases as being more of a niche market technology for the next long while anyways :)

Developing software on a in-house server and only offering the web Interface OO databases might make for good investment, but for the time being...I think I'll stick to learning OR/M...

Thanks for the comments

Cheers :)