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Kudos anyone?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:03 pm
by Benjamin
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I can't stand that word. Kudo's yay me. Why don't people just say, "You did a damn good job", or "We are impressed with your work", or something to that effect.
It reminds me of the corporate mentality when your in a meeting where everything everyone says has to be politically correct and when you get Kudos, everyone does a single Golf clap instead of an applause because the "firm" is pressed for time and wants to get everyone back to work.
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:32 pm
by Luke
please use [rant] style tags next time. thx.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:37 pm
by Benjamin
Oh is that how it works
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Kudos almost sounds like a cookie too. So you do a good job and then someone says, "Heh you get a cookie."
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:09 pm
by Luke
Let's start saying "Granola Bar" instead of kudos. Make healthy choices, people.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:12 pm
by John Cartwright
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:please use [rant] style tags next time. thx.
From what I've seen if the OP is doing the rant they put it the topic title.. so those of us not interested in the rant don't waste time
nothing written in concrete though.. rant away.
Re: Kudos anyone?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:24 pm
by RobertGonzalez
agtlewis wrote:I can't stand that word. Kudo's yay me. Why don't people just say, "You did a damn good job", or "We are impressed with your work", or something to that effect.
It reminds me of the corporate mentality when your in a meeting where everything everyone says has to be politically correct and when you get Kudos, everyone does a single Golf clap instead of an applause because the "firm" is pressed for time and wants to get everyone back to work.
Granola Bar agtlewis. You did a damn good job of bringing a long repressed subject to the forefront of this community. I am impressed with your work. You deserve a cookie.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:26 pm
by Luke
yes, yes granola bar indeed!
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:33 pm
by Roja
Corporate culture highly values concise communication. Notice that it took substantially longer to express the same concept as "Kudos!" in any other form.
Both the clapping and Kudos both come down to the same thing - squeezing the time it takes to congratulate someone down. If they are doing so to fit in more people to congratulate, cool. If not, well, thats just cold.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:15 pm
by Benjamin
Roja wrote:Corporate culture highly values concise communication. Notice that it took substantially longer to express the same concept as "Kudos!" in any other form.
Both the clapping and Kudos both come down to the same thing - squeezing the time it takes to congratulate someone down. If they are doing so to fit in more people to congratulate, cool. If not, well, thats just cold.
Thats exactly what I am talking about, they appreciate your work, but not enough to spend several seconds to let you know. Kudos is good enough for them, apparently it's good enough for most other people as well.... Until they outsource.
I am lucky enough to be able to work for myself. No cookies for me

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:40 pm
by Roja
agtlewis wrote:Kudos is good enough for them, apparently it's good enough for most other people as well.... Until they outsource.
Having worked in two Fortune 20 companies so far, I can say that managers taking the time to even give Kudos is far above the average.
I've been blessed to have managers that generally break the mold, and deeply acknowledge good work, but the norm is definitely not that good.
Thats why Kudos is more than good enough - it shows that they did in fact recognize effort at all, which few do these days.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:34 pm
by Burrito
when I first started at this job I'm in now, I was given kudos all of the time. I got so many one day that I actually got sick to my stomach. Now it seems everything I do is just sort of expected and kudos are old-hat.
at this point, I'll take whatever I can get...I even found myself scrapping the bottom of my desk drawer recently for some old kudos crumbs.
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:16 pm
by RobertGonzalez
agtlewis wrote:Thats exactly what I am talking about, they appreciate your work, but not enough to spend several seconds to let you know. Kudos is good enough for them, apparently it's good enough for most other people as well.... Until they outsource.
I am in the fortunate position of having a management team that does show appreciation for performance. So I cannot complain. I can say that it is pretty sad when folks are slow to give thanks and praise but quick to nitpick and judge. That is something that is all to prevalent in today's corporate world. It seems that excellent performance is an expectation. When you do excel, it is no biggie. When you slack, it is a huge biggie worth all sorts of condemnation.
agtlewis wrote:I am lucky enough to be able to work for myself. No cookies for me

This is why I develop. I hope someday to be able to be in control of my own kudos. And granola bars

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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:35 pm
by alvinphp
I have not seen any problems with the corporate world giving you a pat on the back. Actually, they love to give you lots of pats on the backs and words of encouragement because it is free. My boss does not pat me on the back and praise me all the time because I don't need it. It is kinda of unsaid that he is confident of my abilities and knows that I do a good job. Also, he shows his appreciation when review time comes. =)