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alvinphp
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Post by alvinphp »

Maugrim_The_Reaper wrote:
A degree for PHP LMAO. If it was for more complex languages I would agree with that or applied programming, but this is PHP, a language made for building websites. Degrees are crap. There are plenty of coders out there who are self taught, and are can out code any stooge who spent 4 years and thousands of his/her dollars on a piece of paper. Teaching yourself is the best way.
A formal degree is often the bare minimum employers will look for. It's also hardly useless - you get a lot more out of a degree than simply how to write PHP. There is a lot of theory self-taught developers lack unless they make the effort to seek it out. Most self-taught people actually reading this forum are in this group most likely.
I agree, college is not for learning languages as they seem to change every season. It is to learn the theories and fundamentals that apply to any language. It is learning everything that goes with programming like UML and development methodologies. And I am not talking patterns, but full development lifecycles.

In saying that I personally do not make it a requirement that some has a degree as I rather have a college drop out that knows how to code versus a person with multiple degrees that seems to know nothing (this happens). I have actually lost a lot of trust in resumes and degrees. I like talking with the person where I can usually tell if they know what they are saying in the first 5-10 minutes.
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s.dot
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Post by s.dot »

wow

You have completed the Self Test!
Your score is 5 out of 8. Check out the answers and explanations of the questions.

Im better than I thought :lol:
Set Search Time - A google chrome extension. When you search only results from the past year (or set time period) are displayed. Helps tremendously when using new technologies to avoid outdated results.
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Post by timvw »

I had 8 out of 8... But hey, what's the manual for? ;)

Knowing all that stuff or being capable to find it quickly doesn't make you a good php programmer. On the other hand, it's a headstart compared to those who don't.

I'd like to conclude that proovable experience (portfolio, snippets, ...) has more value over a certificate.. And a certificate has more value than nothing...
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