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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 4:01 am
by twigletmac
Oromian wrote:oldtimer wrote:I use Dreamweaver. It is good but expensive. If you just want a text editor there are several free ones or what I used to use was Ultra edit.
http://www.xxxxx.com or
http://www.xxxxxxxx.com
It's free there.

Not that the admins of this forum condone this sort of thing...
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:23 am
by Kriek
I acquire most of my software, programs, ect from the various companies that I have worked for.
Otherwise I fork over the cash and purchase what I need.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:33 am
by Sky
I've tried dreamweaver. Nice. Trial ran out, and no I wasn't familiar with cracks tehn.
MOSTLY I use HTML-KIT from chami, I supports anything a user can make a plugin for (theres one for most things) and you can end up with a really nice programming that will(in my experience) allow you to program in php quite well, and if you use html along side it often, it will highlight both individually. Theres a few nice plugins for php besides highlighting, like code suggest, lookup, etc.
As for hardcore editing and debugging, Zend's dev environment is the best, no competition. What'daya expect? they helped with php itself! (It has code and function index, live debugging, html output, etc...
Both work well on XP. if your computer can handle XP well, it can handle zend easily, and HTML-KIT is a peice of cake.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 5:16 pm
by dbcooper
If you are just looking for a text-editor and come from a VI background, then
vim is an excellent choice. It supports syntax-highlighting, MS Visual Studio integration (can replace the default editor), and Windows Explorer shell integration (right click and edit any file w/ vim). If you're familiar with gvim under Linux, it works the same way.
You can also download emacs for Windows, but its been a long time since I've been on that side of the fence... You'll have to find that URL yourself.
Both of the above are free (legally).
However, if you're looking for a PHP IDE, then PHP Edit or PHP Coder are pretty nice (as well as free).
My $0.02,
db
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:45 pm
by glo-wurm
Definitely has to be EditPlus
Low cost, tons of user-submitted syntax files for syntax highlighting, user toolgroups, and built-in ftp client so you can work remotely off a server. I love it
It's not expensive either, only a one-time fee of $30. Definitely worth the money if you ask me
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:58 am
by crazyjimsmith
I use edit plus as well. I dont know I have a stack of editors here and I find the simple ones the best. Bythe time you finnish stuffing around with dreamweaver you are done coding on edit plus. Thats my experience.
I cant find the particular post but somebody asked if the was a way to test php script on their machine. I am assuming that they are a windows user. I use a program called easyphp. It is very cooland it is free.
http://www.easyphp.org
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:23 am
by PHP-Editors.com
I use PHP Edit
http://phpedit.com - it that free one.
Its damn good for the price !!!
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:06 pm
by bznutz
Thank you guys soo much for the suggestions.
I think I will have to give Zend Studio a try (is it free or do I have to visit navnetwork for an internet discount?).
My $0.02 about anything from Macromedia:
It's pure <span style='color:blue' title='I'm naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span>! All of it. I don't care what kind of magical web gui's you can create with it, it's crap. I have never seen such a buggy IDE in my life. The integrated ftp is slow and buggy and I find that, unless you use the server extensions for it, the goddamn thing is overkill.
And FlashMX. I want to find the geniuses that derived ActionScript and personally thank them, right in the mouth! I thought javascript was ambiguous and convoluted. I was wrong. ActionScript takes the frickin cake.
I have found that PHPEdit and UltraEdit32 do right by me every time. The autocompletion of PHPEdit allowes me to type like a madman without making stupid syntax errors. The best part about PHPEdit is it's ability to handle syntax-highlighting on templates. Even DreamweaverMX can't keep up with that.
UltraEdit is dope for anything from writing windows scripts to php to assembly or verilog (yes, I'm a computer science major, so I have to dabble in everything).
Once again, thanks guys.
BTW, I have done dual boot every year for the past 5 years. I have found that no matter my configuration, my kids still manage to ruin my Linux setup. It just doesn't have the hard reboot recovery that XP does. However, Linux ran on my machine as a web server for 3 months with a bad memory module. There was a resistor that broke off but it didn't phase Linux. XP, however, croaked on install because of it....
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:37 pm
by superwormy
Macromedia Homesite is the best I've found so far... by FAR the best HTML / PHP color coding, I wish another FREE package would implement color coding like Homesites.
The Zend PHP Development stuff is nice too, but runs WAYYYYY slow on many computers, even like 733 P3s. That's just wrong.
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:02 pm
by topher
Excuse me for sounding lame -- but what's the difference between homesite and dreamweaver. I've never used either, but I definitley need to familiarize myself with a decent editor (one that works well with php and editing in general). Though I've never really been one to be too fond of them, it really is a necessity in the industry.
Cheers.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:40 am
by twigletmac
topher wrote:Excuse me for sounding lame -- but what's the difference between homesite and dreamweaver.
Homesite is a text editor - you do the coding.
Dreamweaver is a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editor - you use it like a word processor and it writes the code for you.
Mac
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:29 am
by jason
Dreamweaver MX also includes Homesite now (the packaged the two together). That isn't saying much, because Dreamweaver MX is still primarily a visual editor, but you can do strictly hand code in it.
I had a friend who did that for all his hand code. He liked it, and use it because it just worked for him.
However! It do go around changing include file paths on him. Apparently, he didn't have some option switched off, but that doesn't matter. It switched paths on him, causing hours of bugs before we found out what was causing the problem.
I personally use ZDE. Yes, it's Java based. Yes, it's not as fast as the others. However, I have a machine that makes it fast enough (1 Ghz, 1Gig Ram for Linux, 1Ghz, 512 MB RAM for Windows). ZDE offers a lot beyond syntax highlighting (not really a feature, more like a common denominator) and simple debugging ( the remote debugging capability is very, very nice). It can be a bit expensive, but for me, I found it was worth it.
ActiveState puts out an editor called Komodo that has similair features, is cross platform, and it's not Java, but I didn't purchase it for various reasons.
I suggest trying both Komodo and Zend out. Both are excellent packages, weigh in at about the same price, and offer some of the same features.
Zend Development Environment
http://zend.com/store/products/zend-studio.php
Komodo
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Kom ... ation.plex
WinXP/.Net Editors
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:41 am
by shareaweb
I have been coding php sine php 2.0, and have been through a myriad of editors. I like PhpEdit best, but it is a bit buggy, especially putting in help file integration, but the DEBUGGER will save you infinite hours going through your code if you install it correctly (and on XP it is a breeze.) Some others I like are PrimalScript, UltraEdit, DPhpEdit, Dzsoft's PHP editor, ActiveState Komodo, and Zend's IDE (although it's pricey and hard to set-up).
There's always notepad, and syntax highlighting in your browser. I have a good script I always use that just highlights with line numbers and that alone saves time too..

UltraEdit
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 12:37 pm
by cybaf
I strongly recommend UltraEdit... has many nice features... you can easily modify the syntax highlighting to best suit your needs.
//cybaf
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 5:23 pm
by qads
phpedit is the way to go, sure it is little bugy but its free..FREE I TELL YOU

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