Relocating
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- shiznatix
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Relocating
Well here goes!
I have hit a major problem living here with residency permits and whatnot and it seams that I will probably have to leave. The last thing I want to do is move back to the USA. I figured this would, at very least, be a place to ask about different countries and laws about living and working. So here goes.
I need to be able to live and work in the country, legally of course. I would need a place that I could get a job without too much difficulty in programming websites. I have a high school education and some intoduction to CISCO certificates and about a year professionally working full time doing PHP. I am a 19 years old, can only speak English, and am a citizen of the USA.
Now my questions. Where could I go? What is the situation like in your country? Anyone have any expierence or knowledge about other countries laws regarding such a situation? How easy is it to get the permits to live and work in the country? Can I stay for a certain amount of time without getting any sort of visa/residency permit (here I can stay 90 days a year without any permits just with my passport)?
I know I could google all of this but there are way to many countries in the world for me to get all of the information on it and I would not get first hand information on the topic. I would like to stay in Europe as I could just hitch-hike to whever I need to go but I won't rule out anything yet.
Any help?
I have hit a major problem living here with residency permits and whatnot and it seams that I will probably have to leave. The last thing I want to do is move back to the USA. I figured this would, at very least, be a place to ask about different countries and laws about living and working. So here goes.
I need to be able to live and work in the country, legally of course. I would need a place that I could get a job without too much difficulty in programming websites. I have a high school education and some intoduction to CISCO certificates and about a year professionally working full time doing PHP. I am a 19 years old, can only speak English, and am a citizen of the USA.
Now my questions. Where could I go? What is the situation like in your country? Anyone have any expierence or knowledge about other countries laws regarding such a situation? How easy is it to get the permits to live and work in the country? Can I stay for a certain amount of time without getting any sort of visa/residency permit (here I can stay 90 days a year without any permits just with my passport)?
I know I could google all of this but there are way to many countries in the world for me to get all of the information on it and I would not get first hand information on the topic. I would like to stay in Europe as I could just hitch-hike to whever I need to go but I won't rule out anything yet.
Any help?
If you're at least 1/16th Irish, they'll give you citizenship. Since they're in the EU, you can then work anywhere else in the EU. What are you made of? Some other countries may be able to give you dual citizenship as well.
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- Chris Corbyn
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To get into the UK you can get a working holiday visa like a bag of sweeties. That only lasts one year though. If you have british relatives you can get up to 4 years working initially with an ancestory visa.
To work here permanently is not so easy. Ok there are plenty of programming jobs available but in order for a company to take on a migrant worker they first need to prove that nobody else for this country can reasonably do your job better than you could do it. Not so easy
I'm having all kinds of issues at the moment trying to help one of my Australian friends who's currently on a working holiday visa stay in the country and get a permanent job (on a side note if anybody has any advice do PM me
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Heh, the ironic thing is that I actually really want to go and work in Australia as a programmer
Good luck with finding something!
To work here permanently is not so easy. Ok there are plenty of programming jobs available but in order for a company to take on a migrant worker they first need to prove that nobody else for this country can reasonably do your job better than you could do it. Not so easy
I'm having all kinds of issues at the moment trying to help one of my Australian friends who's currently on a working holiday visa stay in the country and get a permanent job (on a side note if anybody has any advice do PM me
Heh, the ironic thing is that I actually really want to go and work in Australia as a programmer
Good luck with finding something!
- Chris Corbyn
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Poland can give you a citizenship easily too... same EU rules apply there as well.pickle wrote:If you're at least 1/16th Irish, they'll give you citizenship. Since they're in the EU, you can then work anywhere else in the EU. What are you made of? Some other countries may be able to give you dual citizenship as well.
- shiznatix
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I am Estonian by heritage but to get citizenship I have to have a parent who was a citizen when I was born. My grandparents where citizens but they could not get my dad Estonian citizenship as a birth right because there was not an Estonia then. Which makes the whole situation stupid as I should hold Estonian citizenship by birth but alas, I do not.pickle wrote:If you're at least 1/16th Irish, they'll give you citizenship. Since they're in the EU, you can then work anywhere else in the EU. What are you made of? Some other countries may be able to give you dual citizenship as well.
So the UK I can get the a work / living permit for a year without much hassel? Is it really that hard to find a job there since I am a foreigner? Even though im not Irish at all would it be hard?
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I wish it were that way in the USA.To work here permanently is not so easy. Ok there are plenty of programming jobs available but in order for a company to take on a migrant worker they first need to prove that nobody else for this country can reasonably do your job better than you could do it. Not so easy
Hey, move to Poland, my step-family is from there. Good food and hot girls.
My a friend of my step-sister (who is also incredibly hot), was so incredibly hot that I almost talked to her. lol
Now, two things, before you go thinking I'm all weird because my step sister is hot. We've only known each other 3 years, two of which I have not lived with her, and the one before that she was in and out of Poland.
Second, yes, I should have talked to her friend but if I did happen to hook up with her. Well, all I can say is it would have meant trouble.
Anyways, move to Poland.
- Maugrim_The_Reaper
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Technically you can become an Irish descendant if all of your ancestors were qualified Irish Citizens (i.e. registered). It's a liberal law given Ireland's history of mass emigration. I wouldn't say our work permits are very easy - there are strict rules from EU regulations, and generally I would suggest you have a job either before entering, or shortly after entering an EU nation. Your US passport at least will let you skip the Visa requirements - you'd only require a work permit depending on the country...
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alex.barylski
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Re: Relocating
I always thought you sounded like a *native* english speaker and figured Estonians spoke nothing but EnglishI am a 19 years old, can only speak English, and am a citizen of the USA.
Guess I was wrong
What are you doing in Estonia then? Don't people usually move to the USA and not visa-versa???
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alex.barylski
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alex.barylski
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WhatNow, two things, before you go thinking I'm all weird because my step sister is hot. We've only known each other 3 years, two of which I have not lived with her, and the one before that she was in and out of Poland.
I missed something there...you have a crush on your step sister??? I mean I know she's only a sister by law and not by blood...but I've always thought those relationships were werid...
WTF is all I can say
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So what happens then if your a hardcore mutt like me and your background is everything under the sun, but primarily: Irish/Scottish/Polish/Ukranian???
I don't have any German in me...but I've been in a German before...if you know what I'm saying...so does that somehow by default make me German as well???
Meh...I'm 110% Canadian...I'm born here...this is where my heart belongs and I'd fight to the bitter death to defend my freedoms and sovereignty...
About the only other country I can comprehend living in is the US of A...everywhere is to damn different for me...
As a Canadian I have become very adjusted to wide open spaces...I think I'd find Europe to *tight* and most other places strike me as being...old school...like 2nd world countries...not quite...but sorta...
I take fresh clean air, food, privacy, freedoms, space, clean water and many other things for granted...and I always will...
It's comforting to know that (in Canada at least) you can murder someone and not worry about being euthanized
Just kidding of course...Canadian laws in some ways are to lax...if only Canada and the US could form some kind of best of both worlds law system, etc...I'd live in the perfect place...
Free health care is cool...but I strongly stand by the fact that if someone can afford expedite service...then by all means they should be able to go for it...private/public health care system would be ideal
ANyways...I'm taking this off in a political direction aren't I???
I'll shut up now
I don't have any German in me...but I've been in a German before...if you know what I'm saying...so does that somehow by default make me German as well???
Meh...I'm 110% Canadian...I'm born here...this is where my heart belongs and I'd fight to the bitter death to defend my freedoms and sovereignty...
About the only other country I can comprehend living in is the US of A...everywhere is to damn different for me...
As a Canadian I have become very adjusted to wide open spaces...I think I'd find Europe to *tight* and most other places strike me as being...old school...like 2nd world countries...not quite...but sorta...
I take fresh clean air, food, privacy, freedoms, space, clean water and many other things for granted...and I always will...
It's comforting to know that (in Canada at least) you can murder someone and not worry about being euthanized
Just kidding of course...Canadian laws in some ways are to lax...if only Canada and the US could form some kind of best of both worlds law system, etc...I'd live in the perfect place...
Free health care is cool...but I strongly stand by the fact that if someone can afford expedite service...then by all means they should be able to go for it...private/public health care system would be ideal
ANyways...I'm taking this off in a political direction aren't I???
I'll shut up now
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alex.barylski
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Your right...but you did say you found her hot...which is a little tabbooDaedalus- wrote:I didn't see the word crush in there.
Some people tell me that's weird though and I wanted to explain why it isn't.
Besides, we hardly talk.
I have a half sister...but my no means would I think she's hot...but then again there is a blood line there...so maybe it's different when there is nothing but law binding you togather?
In anycase...if she's hot...but your sister...why not introduce me to her instead???
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