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Crappy programmers

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:22 pm
by Luke
I have had to take over the position of a terrible php programmer and he left me so much crap to clean up. The problem is that most of the jobs I get dealing with his crappy apps is "maintenance", but in reality, there is not enough maintenance in the world to fix his crap. Almost all of it needs to be rewritten... but since the customer thinks it is a simple fix (and it would be if code was written half-way decent), I Can't spend too much time on it, so I have to bandaid a bunch of CRAP!!! I hate it.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:48 pm
by pickle
Just straight up tell them it's not a simple fix. At my job, if I have to fix up a buggered system, I straight up refuse (granted, the fact that I can refuse is because of the good attitude of my boss) to band-aid it if it needs to be re-written.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:52 pm
by RobertGonzalez
Tell them they got swindled by the original developer and that in order for you to make it better you need to spend more time on it than they think. Put a brief proposal together outlining times and what needs to be done, then tell them that mitigating the risk of failure is essential for future business continuity. Speaking their language sometimes helps them understand geek.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:30 pm
by infolock
TNSG: dude, you pretty much described my first year here at my job.. Legacy code that just isn't suitable to touch. I would recommend the phrase "Rewrite it and forget it ever happend".

Otherwise, you are going to find it will take longer to debug it than it would have taken to just rewrite/redesign the bugger.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:50 pm
by MrPotatoes
Everah wrote:Tell them they got swindled by the original developer and that in order for you to make it better you need to spend more time on it than they think. Put a brief proposal together outlining times and what needs to be done, then tell them that mitigating the risk of failure is essential for future business continuity. Speaking their language sometimes helps them understand geek.
yeah. that's sexy. do that

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:06 pm
by RobertGonzalez
MrPotatoes wrote:
Everah wrote:Tell them they got swindled by the original developer and that in order for you to make it better you need to spend more time on it than they think. Put a brief proposal together outlining times and what needs to be done, then tell them that mitigating the risk of failure is essential for future business continuity. Speaking their language sometimes helps them understand geek.
yeah. that's sexy. do that
You like that do ya? Well, try this one...

There are four stages to a disaster planning: Mitigation, Preparedness, Response and Recovery. How many do you want me to work on for your code?

Hooo, baby, that's some sweet stuff rot der.

Re: Crappy programmers

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:44 pm
by AKA Panama Jack
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:I have had to take over the position of a terrible php programmer and he left me so much crap to clean up. The problem is that most of the jobs I get dealing with his crappy apps is "maintenance", but in reality, there is not enough maintenance in the world to fix his crap. Almost all of it needs to be rewritten... but since the customer thinks it is a simple fix (and it would be if code was written half-way decent), I Can't spend too much time on it, so I have to bandaid a bunch of CRAP!!! I hate it.
Heh heh, that's normal. When it comes to many companies and web sites their priority is get it done and out the door. They don't care how it is written just so long as it works. From that point on they just do quick fixes and patches to make it do what they want. They don't want to spend the time and/or money to do it right.

Also, just check out some of the Open Source PHP programs on Sourceforge. Some of them are just down right bizarre.

BTW, your avatar scares me. :cry:

;)

Re: Crappy programmers

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:54 pm
by infolock
AKA Panama Jack wrote: BTW, your avatar scares me. :cry:
*raises hand* seconded.. 8O

Re: Crappy programmers

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:54 pm
by Luke
AKA Panama Jack wrote:BTW, your avatar scares me. :cry:
:lol: :lol: OK... well I'll have a new one for you on Monday :D

Re: Crappy programmers

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:17 pm
by RobertGonzalez
The Ninja Space Goat wrote:
AKA Panama Jack wrote:BTW, your avatar scares me. :cry:
:lol: :lol: OK... well I'll have a new one for you on Monday :D
Just please have some clothes on. 8O

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:28 pm
by wtf
Shouldn't his nipple be censored?

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:31 pm
by Luke
This really goes against my beliefs, but I censored it for you wft. :evil:

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:31 pm
by Charles256
i can attest to that..my company says as fast as possible as cheap as possible..so..the code i'm producing isn't exactly quality..however, it does work.. so.. I apologize in advance if any of you ever work on some of the code i've written.. :(

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:55 pm
by MrPotatoes
stop it witht he TP. i was a fan of the baby with the horns. this one makes me want to go confessional and tell the father i'm having inpure thoughts

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:02 pm
by Luke
I will return to horny baby once I run out of motel trashing space goats.