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a mac revolution

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:35 pm
by Obadiah
is it just me or does it seem like as of late everything in computers/web seems to be built around a macs interface....has anyone seen the new windows beta?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:37 pm
by feyd
Considering people often idolize their design choices, it seems natural. Everyone seems to like gel buttons. :)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:44 pm
by Obadiah
i have no general problems with macs....their geared for the designers and the graphics on those things kick butt...its just a nightmare and a half to get programming software to work on them...thats my only problem
[edited]
i meant to say seems like a nightmare

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:50 pm
by feyd
I've had no problems getting development stuff on them.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:14 pm
by d3ad1ysp0rk
feyd wrote:I've had no problems getting development stuff on them.
+1

I prefer a Mac Development environment over pretty much any other..

Re: a mac revolution

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:50 am
by matthijs
Obadiah wrote:is it just me or does it seem like as of late everything in computers/web seems to be built around a macs interface....has anyone seen the new windows beta?
Funny you say this. I am really annoyed when I read in computer magazines or papers that "Windows and Mac are more and more looking like eachother". Well DUH!! If microsoft blatantly copies apples design.... but that's something many forget to mention.

I have seen the screenshots of vista but I must say they greatly overdid it with the glassy, shiny and transparancy stuff. I wonder how long you would be able to work with that interface before switching back (if possible) to a classic view?

What programming software have you had trouble with then? (i've had no problems so far)

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:10 am
by daedalus__
I'd prefer a functional interface over a pretty one.

I can't deal with all the flashy shiny stuff, I just want to get my work done.

I've always hated Mac OS because of all the cartoony looking GUI stuff.

Re: a mac revolution

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:41 pm
by AngusL
matthijs wrote:
Obadiah wrote:is it just me or does it seem like as of late everything in computers/web seems to be built around a macs interface....has anyone seen the new windows beta?
Funny you say this. I am really annoyed when I read in computer magazines or papers that "Windows and Mac are more and more looking like eachother". Well DUH!! If microsoft blatantly copies apples design....
Probably true to an extent. Macs are better looking. Just a little overpriced, however. That said, don't forget just how much they both copied Xerox's Palo Alto research center's designs at the start.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:17 pm
by Obadiah
i think that if they were as affordable as PC's macs would take over

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:18 pm
by Luke
what about mac minis? They're pretty cheap.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:25 pm
by feyd
Overall, they are all comparably priced (with the exception of the Macbook line). When you're comparing the prices you'll need to compare software load outs too now. Macs come with a lot more software stock than a Windows PC.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:36 pm
by Obadiah
feyd wrote:Overall, they are all comparably priced (with the exception of the Macbook line). When you're comparing the prices you'll need to compare software load outs too now. Macs come with a lot more software stock than a Windows PC.
in saying that...you know how every once in a while(every 3-5 years) you get the urge blow some dough on a new gaming PC....so you order up the parts via tiger direct and something and build yourself one....theoretically couldent it be a MAC before the OS is up there....i mean...isnt that the only thing that seperates a PC from a MAC....if so....couldent Macs and PC's be evenly priced that way minus the software?

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:43 pm
by feyd
Obadiah wrote:in saying that...you know how every once in a while(every 3-5 years) you get the urge blow some dough on a new gaming PC....so you order up the parts via tiger direct and something and build yourself one....theoretically couldent it be a MAC before the OS is up there....i mean...isnt that the only thing that seperates a PC from a MAC....if so....couldent Macs and PC's be evenly priced that way minus the software?
I have no idea what you just said.

Without modification of the OS software, Mac OS will not run on "any" Windows ready PC. Without drivers, Windows will not run well or at all on Mac hardware either. This is why Apple has Bootcamp. There is the virtualization option ala Parallels however.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:45 pm
by MrPotatoes
widows runs better on Mac hardware

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:18 am
by panic!
I'd prefer a functional interface over a pretty one.
The OS 10.4 GUI is actually a master piece.

The XP GUI is so irrational and crappy, I have to use Windows XP on a daily basis at work :(. I can't wait to get an iMac...1st October...counting down baby!.

Windows has it's place..(in the bin)..just kidding, seriously though Windows is good when you lock it down and don't let people install software etc, but even then about a month later you're gonna have to reinstall everything because as soon as you uninstall anything the pieces get left all over the place and you need to buy a third party piece of software to sort it all out and even then theres no guarentee it will work grrr.

How anyone who knows anything about computers can claim that Windows XP is an overall better OS than OS X 10.4 is totally beyond me!

It's the perfect combination of Power and Beauty, I know in the earlier OS Xs (10.0-10.2) they are a bit 'cartoonish' but the style is totally toned down and understated now.

and underneath the GUI is the command line which is about 100 x more powerful than the DOS prompt...**** the DOS prompt, I'm ranting now. *deep breath*

To whoever said about dev being hard on OS X, check out XCode and REALbasic.