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But how many good-paying jobs are out there for Python programmers? ;)
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Plenty... in the game industry. :)
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I am a fan of Python. I don't know very much of it but its straight forward and easy and powerful. But ya I don't know of any jobs that ask for Python.

I think that I am going to go with C++ or Java. C++ sounds more fun but Java seams to have more job offers. I still need to find a damn apartment so I can set my computer up and start doing something. No I won't even bother trying to do it on this horribly ancient mac that I have to use right now.
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feyd wrote:Plenty... in the game industry. :)
I guess reading up the adventures of programmers at EA (and others) made it seem less exciting to work in that industry ;)
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CCP (makers of eve online) in Iceland are recruiting Python programmers, if you fancy moving :P
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Speaking of game programming, Lua is a nice interpreted and easily embeddable language used in the industry. WoW, FarCry, Grim Fandango ... and many other famous names can be seen at http://www.lua.org/uses.html

The languages itself is very high-level, tasks that require several screens of heavy C++ code can be implemented in 20 lines of code. Easily implementable threads allow for easy multithreading and so on and so on. A very nice language.
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Jenk wrote:CCP (makers of eve online) in Iceland are recruiting Python programmers, if you fancy moving :P
move to iceland! in a heartbeat. im just not very good in Python yet, probably not good enough to be hired by them.
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tho I do count myself Python intermediate, I would probably think dozen¹² times before re-locating to Iceland 8O
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shiznatix wrote:
Jenk wrote:CCP (makers of eve online) in Iceland are recruiting Python programmers, if you fancy moving :P
move to iceland! in a heartbeat. im just not very good in Python yet, probably not good enough to be hired by them.
bah, get that method of thought out of your head.

if you can program and want to try and do omething just do it and get in there. lie a little if you have to. <span style='color:blue' title='I&#39;m naughty, are you naughty?'>smurf</span>, if you look and sound hungry and eager they'll hire you. just make yourself deireable is all
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timvw wrote:
AngusL wrote: I think that would give a good base in compiled languages (albeit .NET is JIT :lol:).
With ngen you can precompile the .Net code... Opposed to regular JITted code that only lives in the memory this results in native instructions that are persisted on disk (so you reduce the amount of code that needs to be compiled @runtime).
Ah, I've come across that before. I keep meaning to check it out and never have. I wonder, though, from your last point (reduction of amount needing JIT compilation), whether there are parts remaining to be compiled. Cheers, good sir. I'll take a look at it later today, methinks.
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Daedalus has an opinion..

Today he started reading tutorials for using OpenGL and C++.

He has accomplished more in 5 hours with one tutorial, than he did with C#, Directx, and many tutorials in a week. (maybe 30 hours).

He even made his neat little OpenGL program do something that wasn't in the tutorial, already!

C++ sure is ugly, imo, though.

[edit]I just realised there wasn't an opinion in there (except that C++ is ugly but that wasn't quite on subject)[/edit]
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Daedalus- wrote:Daedalus has an opinion..

Today he started reading tutorials for using OpenGL and C++.

He has accomplished more in 5 hours with one tutorial, than he did with C#, Directx, and many tutorials in a week. (maybe 30 hours).
Imho that says more about the tutorial than the tools ;)
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natix dude you want the CCP job ;) sign up and give me loads of ingame creditzzz :D
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Daedalus- wrote:Daedalus has an opinion..

Today he started reading tutorials for using OpenGL and C++.

He has accomplished more in 5 hours with one tutorial, than he did with C#, Directx, and many tutorials in a week. (maybe 30 hours).

He even made his neat little OpenGL program do something that wasn't in the tutorial, already!

C++ sure is ugly, imo, though.

[edit]I just realised there wasn't an opinion in there (except that C++ is ugly but that wasn't quite on subject)[/edit]
NEVAR TALK ABOUT MY C++ MISTRESS LIKE THAT!!!!

AVAST MATEY!!!!!


yeah, i love C++
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timvw wrote:
Daedalus- wrote:Daedalus has an opinion..

Today he started reading tutorials for using OpenGL and C++.

He has accomplished more in 5 hours with one tutorial, than he did with C#, Directx, and many tutorials in a week. (maybe 30 hours).
Imho that says more about the tutorial than the tools ;)
mebbe.
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