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Post by alex.barylski »

Is it ever a pleasure to develope for :P

So far I haven't found an IE/FF technique which didn't work in either direction, additionally it's DOM support is top notch...

I could switch browsers permenently if IE didn't ship with XP and become a standard part of the OS interface

I'm surprise that browser hasn't been better received by the masses :?
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How have you not made the switch to linux, you can jam on opera exclusively and not have to deal with the XP bull*&(#
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Because I have years of vested interest in Windows development???

Over the years I've slowly started reading about Linux Windowed development: wxWidgets, Qt, GTK, etc...

Photoshop, that I am aware of isn't available on *nix and I NEED PS not knock offs like GIMP. For those who would argue...you can do anything in GIMP that I can do in Photoshop...probalby I'm non an overly talented designer...but people I contact who beg to differ, whose designs are much better than mine... ;)

Convince them to switch...

I need to get one my computers running Linux though...I agree...if anything to properly test Konqueror kHTML engine and FF and any others meant for Linux...

Now I just need a Mac...and I could test and valid B$ on Safari too :P

Cheers :)
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Post by feyd »

Or you could go entirely Mac and virtualize/bootcamp from there.

Shocking thoughts.
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Post by alex.barylski »

Mac has never appealed to me...I like nice designs...but not for my OS...

I still run XPSP2 as Windows 95, with a gradient window caption background :P

I don't like bright colorful buttons they strain my eyes...I like square, fast rendering linera graphics for my environment...I dunno...

Mac (except for the very early ones which were white and black) always seemed waaaaay to glossy, round, button-y for me :P

Plus they have few (if any) flight simulators 8)
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Post by Todd_Z »

Trip-boot on a new mac.

If i ever wanted to touch windoze again, that's what i would do. Seems like a simple setup from the articles i have read.

Give it a shot, who knows, could be a good time
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Post by panic! »

OS X isn't just about the pretty interface..

extremely powerful command line...DOS prompt what now?

Virus free.

Xcode 3 http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/xcode.html

Time machine...soon.

Great 'free' software: GarageBand, Mail, iMovie.

You can still boot into Windows XP, Linux or anything else that will run on an Intel machine....if you must ;)

Authough the interface is nice..
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Hockey wrote:Mac has never appealed to me...I like nice designs...but not for my OS...
I still run XPSP2 as Windows 95, with a gradient window caption background :P
I don't like bright colorful buttons they strain my eyes...I like square, fast rendering linera graphics for my environment...I dunno...
Mac (except for the very early ones which were white and black) always seemed waaaaay to glossy, round, button-y for me :P
Then be sure to stay with 95 and not switch to Vista, from what I've seen they have copied the glossy, rounded looks of OSx and multiplied it with factor 10 :)
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Post by Jenk »

The Vista GUI will be making use DX10 functionality. (!!)

It's not a nice confidence filler to see an OS vendor spending so long on their GUI - honestly, how many actually care how pretty there desktop looks, beyond the want to brag with "look at my desktop!" posts on forums?
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Post by jayshields »

Jenk I have to disagree. I reckon 50% of people who will buy Vista will buy it for the GUI alone.

I'll probably upgrade to Vista when it comes out (and the early/major bugs are gone) and just set it to the Win 95/98 look again. I'm like Hockey in that sense.

I use Windows for ease of use and compatibility, and the lack of motivation to spend hours switching stuff over to a new OS.
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Yeah, I guess on the grand scheme of things that is the case.. I was limiting my self to 'competent' users who do more than just buy a computer because it's the must have gadget of the times and check their mail once a year.
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Post by MrPotatoes »

i LOVE Opera

and on Vista, 15 GB is too damned much for an OS. that's stupid large and no reason they cant fit it in ALOT less. i want an OS that is networking and GUI. everything else i can compile in there (as well as the OS). and make it a completely custom OS for me. that would rule
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Post by jayshields »

MrPotatoes wrote:i LOVE Opera

and on Vista, 15 GB is too damned much for an OS. that's stupid large and no reason they cant fit it in ALOT less. i want an OS that is networking and GUI. everything else i can compile in there (as well as the OS). and make it a completely custom OS for me. that would rule
I'm by all means trying not to sound like a Microsoft loving freak but I'm going to have to defend them again...

15gb? Do you know how much hard drives cost these days? You can get a 250gb SATA hard drive for £50. That's peanuts.

You can probably get someone to give you a 20gb hard drive for free and use it only for your OS install.
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Post by MrPotatoes »

and no operating system should be 15GB LARGE. not that new HDD's now adays cost so little. it's that this is so huge.

you wouldn't be annoyed if someone wrote a book that is 1500 pages long when it should have been a 1 chapter 10 page tutorial on how to make a user authentication thingy? i would
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Post by panic! »

I remember the days when people used to say 400MB was too much for an OS, things change and grow, you can't fight it! :)
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